*BSD News Article 28803


Return to BSD News archive

Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:2126 comp.os.linux.misc:11689
Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news2.uunet.ca!fw.novatel.ca!sidney!hpeyerl
From: hpeyerl@sidney (Herb Peyerl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Impressions: FreeBSD vs Linux
Date: 26 Mar 1994 20:46:22 GMT
Organization: NovAtel Communications Ltd.
Lines: 54
Message-ID: <2n26uu$ae6@fw.novatel.ca>
References: <CMzw69.92K@tower.nullnet.fi> <Cn1KJ1.9pr@boulder.parcplace.com> <HJSTEIN.94Mar24111940@sunset.huji.ac.il> <Cn6txK.IDp@boulder.parcplace.com> <2n1l3n$821@clarknet.clark.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sidney.novatel.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1]
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1]

Rob Newberry (rob-n@clark.net) wrote:
: IMHO, *BSD has a LONG way to go before its ready for users like me.  I

Perhaps that can be rephrased to say "I have a long way to go before
I'm ready for *BSD". :-)

: way to talk to my modem -- kermit is not there, I can't get tip
: to work, and there's just not any instructions anywhere.  Plus, when

*BSD is an operating system. kermit is an application. XFree86 is also
an application as is TeX and many other things.  Should every conceivable
application be shipped with the operating system?  

As far as 'tip' goes; typing "man tip" points you in the right direction
for setting up the "remote" and "phones" files.

: says, "Perhaps someone should tell us what all these options actually
: mean."  I thought that's what the *!@# FAQ was for!

Then complain to the maintainers of the FAQ.  That's surely not the fault
of *BSD.  The FAQ maintainers are volunteers also so it's hardly their
blame.

: It's not just the FAQ's, either.  The man pages are screwy.  I wanted
: to add some users.  In linux, "adduser" does the trick.  So I do a 
: "man adduser", and it says that this is a command for adding new users,

Wrong. It says (and I quote:)

----
ADDUSER(8)              NetBSD System Manager's Manual              ADDUSER(8)

NAME
     adduser - procedure for adding new users
----

"procedure"... Not "command". And reading further (yes; I know it's
a whole paragraph down but sometimes you need to have patience) you
see that it suggests you use "vipw(8)".

: did finally find out to use "vipw" (Thanks, O'Reilly), but that's
: just plain dumb.

No. It's not.

: Linux.  Linux installed on my system, and I added the users I needed,
: and they had POP accounts immediately, and I could run "DIP" to set

What if I don't *want* my users to have POP accounts?

--
hpeyerl@novatel.ca                           |  NovAtel Commnications Ltd.
hpeyerl@fsa.ca                               | <nothing I say matters anyway>
       <NetBSD: A drinking group with a serious computing problem!>