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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux.misc:14464 comp.os.os2.misc:93845 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:25124 comp.os.386bsd.misc:2446 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uknet!demon!minnow.render.com!news!dfr From: dfr@herring.demon.co.uk (Doug Rabson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.windows.x.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep for $100 Date: 4 May 94 11:38:09 Organization: RenderMorphics Ltd. Lines: 53 Message-ID: <DFR.94May4113809@minnow.render.com> References: <2p3obs$f8k@acme.gatech.edu> <hastyCoLKuB.BtF@netcom.com> <Coop38.27y@rex.uokhsc.edu> <hastyCoqAtn.H37@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: minnow.render.com In-reply-to: hasty@netcom.com's message of Sat, 23 Apr 1994 20:12:58 GMT In article <hastyCoqAtn.H37@netcom.com> hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes: In article <Coop38.27y@rex.uokhsc.edu> benjamin-goldsteen@uokhsc.edu writes: >hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes: > >>In article <2p3obs$f8k@acme.gatech.edu> ccastco@prism.gatech.edu (Costas Malamas) writes: >>>In article <cairnss.766797259@ucsu.colorado.edu>, >>>Queenie <cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wrote: >>> >dmuir@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Douglas Muir) writes: >>> > > >Actually, an SGI Indy isn't too much more than a well equiped PC -- and >you get a lot of extra value. Also, the HP and Dec low end workstations fall in this category. Well, $5000 SGI Indy is for a diskless configuration or so I remember the last time. Its X performance from a visual inspection did not strike me as being that fast. The new S3 [89]64 based cards will probably be in the range of the SGI Indy. Thomas Roell has rated his X server at around 260k xstones for an S3 964 based board. On 3D graphics, the SGI will most likely leave us on the dust till the new 3D graphic chipsets hit the market. For $5000 you will not get any 3D hardware in your Indy. The entry level system had 3D graphics implemented in software. Our commercial 3D graphics system exceeds Indy performance running on the same hardware and is available now on Sparc, SGI and FreeBSD based platforms as well as MSDOS, Windows 3.1 and Windows NT. Fully functionable P90 systems are starting to sell at around $4000. You add about $1000 worth of software to the system and is more than a match for low end workstations (except in the area of 3D graphics). Performance rates for 3D graphics under FreeBSD using XFree86-2.0 on a 66DX2 local bus system are about 60,000 poly/sec. For a P90 this would be proportionately higher. [Tools stuff removed] Amancio -- FREE unix, gcc, tcp/ip, X, open-look, tcl/tk, MIME, midi, sound at freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD Amancio Hasty, Consultant | Home: (415) 495-3046 | e-mail hasty@netcom.com | ftp-site depository of all my work: ahasty@cisco.com | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/X -- Doug Rabson, RenderMorphics Ltd. Mail: dfr@render.demon.co.uk Phone: +44 71 266 5090 FAX: +44 71 266 1623