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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!milo.mcs.anl.gov!xray!winans From: winans@xray.aps.anl.gov (John R. Winans) Subject: Re: SCSI bus hangs -- Help needed Message-ID: <Cpunx1.LpC@mcs.anl.gov> Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago Illinois References: <2qrksr$7vu@meatball.rwwa.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 15:19:48 GMT Lines: 71 In article <2qrksr$7vu@meatball.rwwa.com> witr@rwwa.com writes: >Am I the *only* person on the face of the earth with this problem? > >Config: 1.1-GAMMA, AHA1542B, 3 Maxtor LXT213S, 1 Sony CDU541, > 1 Archive 2150ES. (The tape drive is external, and is sometimes > connected and sometimes not. Termination is made ``correct'' > either way. Only two of the drives are in use. > >Problem: Random SCSI bus hangs. Doesn't seem to correlate > with anything other than bus activity. Doesn't depend on whether > tape drive is connected or not, or whether the CDROM is accessed > or not. I get hangs both ways. > >When the bus hangs, all devices have their access lights off, the >AHA his its light on. I get console messages about timeouts and >``adapter not taking commands --- frozen?''. > >When I push the reset button the AHA light remains on. It *stays* on >until the AHA bios starts sniffing the bus. It seems very much like >the SCSI half of the AHA card has crashed hard. Yah, I get the exact same trouble with NETBSD 0.9 and the AHA1542C. When all I had on it was a 60MB QIC it never happened, but when I added a 1GIG SCSI2 <CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 1823>, I would get SCSI bus hangs once a week or so (my system runs 24 hours/day.) Since my root, /tmp, and swap all go to an IDE drive, I only use the SCSI drive as a regular file system. I have also seen other postings about SCSI bus hangs posted with followups that discuss cable quality and termination. I suspect that could be the cause of many problems that people are having, but doubt that it is mine, as I have swapped things around and tried various options on the AHA board WRT termination. I get: May 2 17:25:25 zone /netbsd: aha0: device 6 timed out messages on my console when ever my bus hangs... followed shortly by a total system crash. My LED on my AHA board has stayed on when ever I was around to enjoy the disaster first hand, but my LED on the drive is sometimes stuck on and sometimes not. Again, when lit they stay on until the AHA driver in netbsd inits again. I have the sips on the drive installed and it is plugged into the DIP header on the AHA board and I have a terminator on an external CDrom drive installed. I have the termination switch on the AHA board set to 'software controlled' and have (in the past) selected the termination to be disabled with their setup software. I have also tried setting the termination switch to 'on' and leaving the external cable unplugged. Both configs seem to work equally poorly. Additional info... I keep the floppy and BIOS disabled on the board. And in the no-CDrom config, I use a ribbion cable that is 18" long. Before I had any SCSI stuff in my machine at all, it stayed up for 2 months. (The only reason it came down was to add the SCSI drive.) And yes, I use it just about every day to cross compile a development operating system for a 68000 based controller. I run the XFree stuff, and slip into the internet almost daily. So I would think that it is getting a reasonable workout. Should you find any resolutions to this, I would be interested in hearing from you. --John -- ! John Winans Advanced Photon Source (Controls) ! ! winans@phebos.aps.anl.gov Argonne National Laboratory, Illinois ! ! ! !"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." - Tom Waits !