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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!mimbres.cs.unm.edu!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!lynx.unm.edu!jobone!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!netmbx.de!zib-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!regent!not-for-mail From: arg@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Armin Gruner) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Porting 4.4-Lite to VAX Date: 12 May 1994 16:01:43 +0200 Organization: Technical University of Munich, Germany Lines: 45 Message-ID: <2qtcs7$2vi@region.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <1994May11.190620.29816@dsi.bc.ca> <2qrde7$9mh@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: region.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de rmacklem@uoguelph.ca (Rick Macklem) writes: >Rob Ballantyne (rsb@dsi.bc.ca) wrote: >[stuff deleted] >: - What (and how much) exactly is missing from 4.4BSD that would have >: to be constructed from scratch? >There is no VAX architectural support in 4.4Lite, but I believe there is >work being done on porting NetBSD to the VAX architecture. Also, my vague >understanding is that both NetBSD and FreeBSD will be switching over >to a 4.4BSD Lite code base, making it into an unencumbered bootable >system. (Others out there in net land probably have a much better >handle on what is going on than I. Maybe someone else can fill us in?) >: - What (and how much) would have to be re-written for the VAX. >Just a wild guess, but the VS3100 might use a lot of the same chips that >the MIPS DECstations do (and which there are drivers for in 4.4BSD Lite). >If this is the case, you should be able to make the pmax drivers work >for the VS3100 pretty easily. (Anyone out there know what chips are used >for SCSI, Ethernet, etc. on the VS3100?) >: - How open is DEC about its hardware? Would I be able to find out the >: low level stuff I need to? >My experience is that they have not tried to keep it a secret, although >sometimes the documents have never been published, which implies that you >need some sort of non-disclosure agreement with DEC to get copies of them. >(They are usually called Functional Specifications and it can be fun trying > to find out what the part #(s) is/are:-) There are VAX portions (i.e. drivers) in the networking-II-release (well, which must be replaced by 4.4lite when it is available), but I think you can always use it as a reference. Networking Release II is still available on gatekeeper and uunet. Regards Armin -- ____ Armin Gruner, Technische Universitaet, Muenchen \ / http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~gruner \/ Nur wer sich aendert, bleibt sich treu - Wolf Biermann