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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!vixie!vixie From: vixie@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Subject: Re: Are you really here, Bill? (was Re: Boy you are silly!) Date: 23 May 94 01:14:05 Organization: Vixie Enterprises Lines: 38 Distribution: world Message-ID: <VIXIE.94May23011405@office.home.vix.com> References: <jmonroyCq3K2n.1Mt@netcom.com> <2ri898$90c@omega.gmd.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: office.home.vix.com In-reply-to: veit@borneo.gmd.de's message of 20 May 1994 11:52:08 GMT What'll actually be on the CD? Nobody knows exactly since the advertisement is oblique in the fact department and noone who posts here has yet received a copy even though several folks have ordered it. But we can speculate. I'm not on Bill and Lynne's hit parade, for a number of reasons owing to various past deeds. However, I was a customer of Symmetric (Bill's old company) and I am familiar with some of the code he wrote for the NS16032 (ne NS32016); I've also seen his work in BNR2 and in BSD/386. I havn't looked at 386BSD but I assume it's pretty much the same as what I _have_ seen so my comments might be applicable to it. In summary: Bill is a brilliant person who often has really cool ideas. His MMU port to the NS32016 was extremely clean and optimal, and if all of his stuff was that good I think we'd all be running 386BSD today. I heard Bill speak at SVNET a few months ago and the stuff he had planned for the next release of 386BSD sounded pretty cool. I don't think I'll be able to take pieces of it and put it into the systems I use, since Bill's changes sounded like they were pretty fundamental; for the same reason I don't expect to be able to punt my existing system in favour of 386BSD 1.0. But whatever you want to say about Bill's personality or track record, has to be tempered by the fact that he really has done some cool things over time, and there is every reason to suspect that the CDROM will have new cool stuff on it, though maybe it won't be 100% of the content. I guess we don't have anything else to talk about or do, so we sit here and trade arguments about what might or might not be on that CDROM. I'm feeling silly participating in this discussion -- hopefully you are, too, and we can all go back to the many other things which keep us busy, and wait for Bill to get that CDROM out the door. (If I were Bill, the reason I wouldn't be reading this group or participating in this discussion would be either that I had a lot of work to do getting the ROM out, or I was burned out from getting the ROM out and I went on vacation.) -- Paul Vixie Redwood City, CA decwrl!vixie!paul <paul@vix.com>