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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!ieunet!news.ieunet.ie!jkh From: jkh@whisker.hubbard.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Subject: Re: Request to ``ports'' developers Date: 29 May 1994 08:59:21 GMT Organization: Jordan Hubbard Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <JKH.94May29085921@whisker.hubbard.ie> References: <2s291q$pnl@meatball.rwwa.com> <2s37a4$mp9@pdq.coe.montana.edu> <VIXIE.94May27220527@office.home.vix.com> <hm.770154713@hcswork> <VIXIE.94May28221230@office.home.vix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: whisker.hubbard.ie In-reply-to: vixie@vix.com's message of 28 May 94 22:12:30 In article <VIXIE.94May28221230@office.home.vix.com> vixie@vix.com (Paul A Vixie) writes: But really, using system-style #ifdef's is OK as long as you pick the right macro. I really doubt that "__386bsd" is ever the right thing, or "__netbsd" or "__freebsd", or "__bsdi__", since I don't think those systems add anything new to the basic (BSD >= 199103) interface. So if you use the common #ifdef you essentially get those other "ports" for free. Just to add a note here, there is in fact NO way other than checking BSD for one of these magic values to tell that you're running on a *BSD (or BSD* :) system - each of the *BSDs no longer defines __386BSD__, so software that uses this to detect either environment will now break. If you *really* want to configure yourself for one of the *BSD's because you're sure your software won't compile under BSDI or some other BSD incarnation (and it does give me pause, wondering whether or not any of the BSD *derived* but significantly hacked systems out there define BSD?), then check for __FreeBSD__ and/or __NetBSD__. Also, just for the record, let me be said that I _really hate_ this BSD convention. I can see why they did it, but seeing an `#if (BSD >= 19411207)' in the code tells me little more than the fact that this particular BSD variant was released during the attack on Pearl Harbor and nothing at all as to WHY the coder is targeting this particular release (unless I happen to personally know something about the PH release). It's about as informative as a politician's speach, and one shudders to think of what would happen if major vendors started following similar examples (#if HPUX > 930104 || AIX <= 9403) - one would have to start thinking of operating systems releases in terms of vintages ("Oh, I see this is an april '93 HPUX - that was a very fine year! Yes, vendor, I'll have that please!" :-). Jordan -- Jordan K. Hubbard FreeBSD core team Friend to mollusks