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Xref: sserve comp.unix.bsd:14098 comp.os.mach:3917 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!pipex!sunic!EU.net!uunet!tezcat.com!tezcat.com!not-for-mail From: ilixi@tezcat.com (Charles Ewen MacMillan) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach Subject: Re: Anyone using MachTen on a Mac? Date: 5 Jun 1994 02:59:50 -0500 Organization: TEZCAT - Wicker Park's Own Internet Services 312-850-0181 Lines: 38 Message-ID: <2ss0lm$54s@xochi.tezcat.com> References: <1994Jun3.210215.20699@midway.uchicago.edu> <2sp809$hnq@xochi.tezcat.com> <1994Jun4.091322.13685@midway.uchicago.edu> <2sruh6$hnh@news.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: xochi.tezcat.com In article <2sruh6$hnh@news.u.washington.edu>, Donn Cave <donn@u.washington.edu> wrote: >enf1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric Fischer) writes: > >| I'm well aware of the fact that NetBSD exists, and it certainly seems >| like a conceptually better system than running over MacOS, but last >| I heard it was compatible with neither the 68040 nor built-in video, >| without which support it's useless to me. Would that it were otherwise... >| and if I knew enough about low-level Macintosh programming to try to >| help out the cause, I would, but alas, it's far beyond my scope. > >So MachTen runs on MacOS? Interesting, I have a paper from a USENIX >workshop that describes Mach, and they go on at some length about a >Macintosh server running on Mach 3.0. I wonder, if you had that, if >you could then run Mach on Mac on Mach? And then what would you run >on top of that for an operating system? > >Seriously, anyway, I'm typing this on an Amiga running NetBSD, and it's >great, for UNIX. (BTW, the Amiga port handles 68040.) But of course it >will be a long time before anyone has video running on it - that kind of >thing would have to go into that monolithic kernel, and it's probably not >worth it. Mach ought to be more flexible, though, right? > "Mach" actually refers to the Mach kernel source, in most of the contexts that you will see it used, not to MachTen. I can never keep track of this stuff, but I know that one of the "free" BSD Unices at least is based heavily on the Mach sources. Or was. Actually, could someone fill me in on its relation to modern BSD ports? -- Charles Ewen MacMillan | Tezcat.COM - The Good Guys <ilixi@tezcat.com> | Offering Internet Access Modem: 312-850-0112/0117| Via Interactive UNIX to Voice: 312-850-0181 | the Chicago Area.