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From: terry@npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,alt.suit.att-bsdi
Subject: Re: UNIGRAM's article on the USL-BSDI suit
Message-ID: <1992Aug6.170508.14978@gateway.novell.com>
Date: 6 Aug 92 17:05:08 GMT
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In article <1992Aug06.010408.2470@kithrup.COM> sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) writes:
>In article <o772klk@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com (Don Coolidge) writes:
>>Moreover, the Multics comparison is entirely apropos. 
>
>Not really.  The Original UNIX was a "real world" replacement for Multics:
>it lacked a lot of the features, but did pick up some of the basic ideas
>(such as a shell-as-a-normal-program).
>
>>It is blatantly derived from Multics.
>
>It most certainly is *NOT*.  At no point did anyone ever claim that there
>was Multics code in UNIX.  The fact that one was written in PL/I, and the
>other in assembly, first, and then C, may have had something to do with
>this... :)

	Well, at least it was intended as a loader for several Multics games
on the PDP.  This is the anecdotal reason for it's initial developement.

>In any event, the USL suit is either claiming outright infringement (i.e.,
>there is USL code in Net/2 and/or BSDI's code), or a form of infringement I
>can understand, if not agree with.  Namely, that the Net/2 code was written
>to replace USL code, piece by piece, fragment by fragment, by people who
>knew the USL code, and, therefore, the code is based upon USL code.  Or a
>combination of both, of course.
>
>This doesn't mean I agree with the latter concept.  I don't really have an
>opinion about it just yet -- but I can appreciate USL's point of view.

	I don't agree with the concept, but, unlike you, I do not
appreciate USL's point of view.  This would mean that a manufacturer of
"jump-suits" should be able to sue Sears for trying to replace their
product a piece at a time because Sears sells flannel shirts and Levi's.

	It would mean that GM should be able to sue auto parts stores that
attempt to replace GM cars one piece at a time.

	It would mean that Democrats should be able to sue Bush for
trying to replace their congress one piece at a time (and vice versa, for
the Democrats trying to replace the Republican president one piece at
a time.

	The just plain base idiocy of the "piecemeal replacement" argument
ticks me off.


					Terry Lambert
					terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
					terry@icarus.weber.edu
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