Return to BSD News archive
Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!lemis!grog From: grog@lemis.uucp (Greg Lehey) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Subject: "386bsd 1.0" - more information Keywords: bsd unix jolitz jesus flame cdrom Message-ID: <3117@adagio.lemis.uucp> Date: 11 Jun 94 15:55:07 GMT Organization: LEMIS, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany Lines: 71 I've just received the July issue of the German magazine c't, in which I find a small article by Juergen Fey. Juergen is a friend of Bill Jolitz and was responsible for the translation of Bill's 386bsd articles into German and their printing in UNIXMagazin, of which he was the editor. UNIXMagazin is now dead, and Juergen seems to work for the erstwhile competitor, iX. I can't translate the article without permission, but here's the gist of it: 1. 386BSD Release 1.0 is about to be released, two years after the completion (German "Fertigstellung") of 386BSD 0.1, which will put an end to the plethora of "wild" BSD versions (NetBSD, FreeBSD and so on). In cooperation with Dr. Dobbs, a bootable "Reference CD-ROM" is currently being completed. My thoughts: a. this looks as if Mr. Fey has either got his time scale wrong, or the CD-ROM is still not complete. This issue of c't is hot off the press, which means that the information in it should be no older than, say, May 20. b. What other "wild" BSD versions do you know? 2. The CD-ROM will include a large quantity (German "Fuelle") of additional documentation in MS Windows Help format (what's that?) The authors Bill and Lynne Jolitz, who say that they intend it to be as comprehensive a learning tool and research object rather than a commercial system, have placed particular importance on detailed descriptions. The documentation is linked by hyperlinks and includes the original articles of the Dr.Dobbs 386bsd series, detailed comments and explanations about the current implementation and excerpts from the still incomplete book "386BSD: From the Inside Out". The authors place particular importance on comments. The System Handbooks (whatever they may be) are present in PostScript format. 3. The operating system can be booted directly from the DOS level from the CD-ROM (Mitsumi or SCSI), but it can also reside in its own partition. He goes on to say how much space the system requires, and then: if you reserve a second disk just for 386BSD, you will need to boot via DOS. This gives me the feeling that this is not really a boot from CD-ROM at all--you first need to boot DOS, and then you can use a DOS bootstrap to boot from the CD-ROM. Nice idea, but not nearly as clever as what we have so far been led to believe. 4. Apart from the "official" version on CD-ROM, a system without most of the documentation, consisting of sources and binaries, will be offered on the Internet. In summary, this looks to me like a lot less than I had been led to believe. As I have posted on a previous occasion, I have ordered one anyway, mainly for the documentation. If the reason it hasn't been delivered yet is because the CD-ROM isn't ready yet, I feel rather cheated. It also is beginning to look as if the boot from the CD-ROM isn't really a first-level boot at all, which makes it less attractive then the idea of a general boot disk: booting DOS takes *much* longer than booting a first-level bootstrap. Greg -- --------------------------------------------- Greg Lehey | Tel: +49-6637-1488 LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, | Fax: +49-6637-1489 36325 Feldatal, Germany | Mail: grog@lemis.de