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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!mld From: mld@netcom.com (Matthew Deter) Subject: Re: Switching off SCSI external disk and FreeBSD Message-ID: <mldCrop16.K1M@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <2tkosa$lpo@news-rocq.inria.fr> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 07:05:29 GMT Lines: 39 Herve Soulard (soulard@alix.inria.fr) wrote: : I would like to know if it is possible to switch on and off the external : disk while the system is running. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but in my experience, the SCSI bus will not tolerate devices being added and removed while the bus is active. (Our Apollo 425t's @ work will crash *hard* if you plug/unplug the SCSI tape while the machine is powered.) Of course, there are are exceptions (RAID disk arrays come to mind) but in general, it is Bad Juju to muck with the busses when power is applied. [especially since if you yank the ground line before a signal I/O line, it is quite possible for that signal line to become the *power* ground. Signal lines are not designed to sink lots of current (which is what would happen if the real GND line was disconnected from the socket and the signal line became the least resistive (lowest potential) path to ground...). The net result is that you can cook the chips on the signal lines. This happens on the 425t's mentioned above when mucking with the Keyboard. the little 8051 in the keyboard gets cooked...) Now, I've known people to yank serial I/O cards in and out of the ISA bus with their machines fully powered, and then proceed to use them. But I sure as hell wouldn't do that with *my* machine. :-) : I ask this question because I would like to add an internal hard disk : within an extractible thing (I don't know how to call that in english) in : order to replace the external big box I have to carry with me. I'm still not clear on what your problem is, but I think that changing the SCSI bus configuration while the machine is up and running is a Bad Idea. -- $$ Matthew Deter -- mld@netcom.com $$$$ $$ "Whatever road I take, the guiding star is within me; the guiding $$$$ star and the loadstone which point the way. They point in but $$ one direction. They point to me." $$$$ $$ -- from the novel _Anthem_ by Ayn Rand