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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:2604 comp.os.linux.misc:17516 Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!hasty From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Subject: Re: One downsmanship (Was:Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)) Message-ID: <hastyCrBLo9.707@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2t7jbf$gq0@umd5.umd.edu> <1994Jun10.094747.21313@cc.usu.edu> <2tga32$d6f@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:24:08 GMT Lines: 40 In article <2tga32$d6f@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <1994Jun10.094747.21313@cc.usu.edu>, <ivie@cc.usu.edu> wrote: >>In article <2t7jbf$gq0@umd5.umd.edu>, mark@elea.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz) writes: >>> In article <Cr2JxG.9v5@metapro.dialix.oz.au>, >>> Rob Masters <rdm@metapro.DIALix.oz.au> wrote: >>>>Who first used UNIX on an 11/23 with 16 users in 128k Ram, runs FreeBSD on a >>>>386sx-25/4Mb and /still/ supports a Xenix 286 system that handles 16 users >>>>in 1MB! > >>>>(Who knows where this will all end! ;-) > >>> It will end when all the people who used dinky-size PDP11's have said >>> what they used. :) It's a welcome diversion from "What is 386BSD 1.0" >>> and "What is different between Linux and BSD". > >>Only as long as we stick to Unix... > >Oh, then I can talk about the 3 user 1802-based development system with 4K of >ROM and 12K of RAM and 2 bog-standard 250K IBM-style 8" floppies. I think it >used bit-banger uarts. Cooperative multitasking, so if one user forgot to put >a "sleep" in a long-running loop you were hosed. Well okay, what are we doing to bloat up the kernels and reduce response time? For starters, I can think of drivers operating at a too high priority for too long -- Remember the old com driver in *bsd? And no, I am not going to tell you stories about 11/04, rt-11, gt40's, pdp-10s, etc... Amancio -- FREE unix, gcc, tcp/ip, X, open-look, netaudio, tcl/tk, MIME, midi,sound at freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD Amancio Hasty, Consultant | Home: (415) 495-3046 | e-mail hasty@netcom.com | ftp-site depository of all my work: | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/X