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Xref: sserve comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:10157 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking:2394 comp.os.386bsd.questions:11380 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!agate!asami From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi ASAMI) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: 3c509 and 3c503? [FreeBSD] Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet Date: 4 Jul 94 18:44:14 Organization: CS Div. - EECS, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720 Lines: 39 Message-ID: <ASAMI.94Jul4184414@forgery.cs.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: forgery.cs.berkeley.edu (Watch out for the Newsgroups: and Followup-to: lines) I have a question about 3Com 3c50? cards. I am trying to setup a small LAN of computers using ethernet with my apartment-mates. Seems like 3com 3c503 and 3c509 are the most popular cards (at least for FreeBSD). 3c509 seems a whole lot cheaper ($150 vs. $120 at regular places, plus I've seen a "special offer" of "2 for $99" (!) for 3c509). However, I've seen some reports about 3c509 having problems with the FreeBSD driver, e.g., (from KNOWNBUGS of FreeBSD) === /sys/i386/isa/if_ep.c The 3c509 driver will hang under heavy network loads and take your machine off the network. (Though the machine will continue to run with no network facilities) Workaround: Try a "ifconfig ep0 down" and a "ifconfig ep0 up" === But also some people say it works fine for them. So, my questions are: (1) Is this problem solved, or does it happen only in certain configurations (e.g., only if there is a Sapphire Roadster VLB board in the master slot, etc.)? (2) What are the differences between the two cards? What does the "Etherlink-II/III" mean? Which is newer? Which is better (I know, no flames please)? Is 3c509 cheaper because it's older, or is it cheaper because it's newer? :) (3) Do you know anything else about them? Thanks- Satoshi P.S. I read the c.s.i.p.h.* FAQ, couldn't find anything about them....