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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!ai-lab!mikc From: mikc@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mike Coughlin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: 4.4-lite? Date: 8 Jul 1994 13:03:38 GMT Organization: Free Software Foundation / Cambridge, MA USA Lines: 29 Message-ID: <2vjiraINNa7e@life.ai.mit.edu> References: <VIXIE.94Jun20091941@office.home.vix.com> <1994Jul6.050857.8410@comserv.itri.org.tw> <jwshin.773477829@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> <VIXIE.94Jul6163242@office.home.vix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu In article <VIXIE.94Jul6163242@office.home.vix.com>, Paul A Vixie <vixie@vix.com> wrote: > [somebody else wrote:] >> As I understood it, no non-commercial group is doing anymore Unix research. >> Bell lab stopped, and CSRG (I think) said 4.4 was the last version. The >> further Unix research will be done in places like USL, Sun, IBM [...] >...and BSDI... Things change with time. Many years ago, researchers at Berkeley were paid to write new improved code for AT&T's Unix operating system. Unix was then an academic exercise. AT&T couldn't be a computer company since it was a Telephone monopoly. Now Unix is a commercial product guarded by lawyers that want to sue as much as possible. Researchers at Berkeley are interested in newer things than the ideas in Unix. There has been a problem for the past few years in that the academic program code from Berkeley was mixed in with the commercial code from AT&T. After a monumental struggle, this code has finally been disentangled. We now have a completely different situation from years ago. There is no need for a company or a research institution to continue the development of Unix. Now anyone with the necessary skills can work on the project over the net in his spare time. The need for copyrights and license payments is gone. People can work on netBSD or freeBSD to further their education and establish their reputation as first class programming consultants. So I'd say that the largest possible non-commercial group is now doing research on Unix. -- Michael Coughlin mikc@gnu.ai.mit.edu Cambridge, MA USA