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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!ai-lab!life.ai.mit.edu!mycroft From: mycroft@duality.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles M. Hannum) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: 4.4-lite? Date: 20 Jul 1994 09:11:27 GMT Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 39 Message-ID: <MYCROFT.94Jul20051127@duality.gnu.ai.mit.edu> References: <2vgvc7$3tg@spruce.cic.net> <301rrc$cmv@masala.cc.uh.edu> <Csxxqo.DsM@newsserver.aggregate.com> <3097eh$m2h@pdq.coe.montana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: duality.ai.mit.edu In-reply-to: nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu's message of 16 Jul 1994 18:04:01 GMT In article <3097eh$m2h@pdq.coe.montana.edu> nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes: We made the decision a long time ago to concentrate our work on making the reference port stable BEFORE any other platform development goes on. You've been touting that line for an awfully long time now, Nate. It's a simple fact that I've personally inspected, when necessary fixed, and in several cases sped up and documented, about 95% of the i386-specific code in NetBSD since our last release (as well as importing and writing some new code, and working on the 4.4-Lite integration), and I'd venture that it's pretty solid. I haven't seen anyone do that for FreeBSD. And my memory does reach back. For example, I still remember when Jeff Hsu imported by sigreturn validation code into FreeBSD, and then denied that I wrote it. Clearly he didn't test it adequately either, because in the process he reversed a test and ended up leaving an obscure but wide security hole in FreeBSD. Last I checked it was still there. Unless the port is to a completely different platfrom. The move to 4.4 has placed both groups on level ground for the most part, so getting another BRAND-NEW (PPC, ALPHA, etc..) platform going is going to take the same amount of work for both folks. Assuming we were both releasing virgin 4.4-Lite trees right now, I might even let you get away with that statement. But already NetBSD has advanced beyond 4.4-Lite, in both stability, features, and architecture-independence, and where are you? -- - Charles Hannum NetBSD group Working ports: i386, hp300, amiga, sparc, mac68k, pc532. In progress: pmax, sun3.