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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ames!hookup!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!newsdist.tc.umn.edu!uum1!newsserver!rhealey From: rhealey@sirius.aggregate.com (Rob Healey) Subject: Re: 4.4-lite? Sender: usenet@newsserver.aggregate.com (Usenet News Administrative Account) Message-ID: <Ct75oE.75p@newsserver.aggregate.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:55:26 GMT References: <2vgvc7$3tg@spruce.cic.net> <Zi2ziVX.dysonj@delphi.com> <30em65$g17@autodesk.autodesk.com> <30finf$98e@pdq.coe.montana.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: sirius.aggregate.com Organization: Aggregate Computing, Inc. Minneapolis,MN Lines: 44 In article <30finf$98e@pdq.coe.montana.edu>, Nate Williams <nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu> wrote: >John *is* a member of the core team, and his comments are valid. >Basically, even though FreeBSD does not *currently* have any non-x86 >specific directories doesn't mean it can't with sufficient time spent >have them. > >I'm not going to do it, but this doesn't mean it can't be done, or >that it's any more difficult to do on FreeBSD 2.X than in NetBSD. > But that still doesn't answer why someone like myself, with 8 months invested in to NetBSD 1.0 would want to spend time trying to get things to fly under FreeBSD when that same time could be spent building on the work I and others have already done on, in my case, the m68k/Amiga port? Now that I have a stable port and can start working on applications beyond the kernel why would I want to go back to square one?! Same question goes with the m68k/Mac, m68k/Sun3, m68k/da30, mips, sparc, ns32k, x86 and I believe vax and alpha ports? How about native OS emulation features? NetBSD has SunOS(sparc and m68k), Ultrix, HP-UX and even x86 SVR4 emulation modes, these were non-trivial and time consuming to implement. They are also VERY useful for running "dusty deck" or commercial applications under a BSD OS. From my personal tests the NetBSD port appears to hit the limits of my hardware. i.e. if my hardware was better it would go faster so it's my hardware that is slowing things down, not the OS. How would switching to FreeBSD speed it up any? As far as the implication that somehow NetBSD 1.0 is tainted, and I doubt this implication is an accident due to it's recurrance in FreeBSD postings, I would like to see proof backing up this claim. Just because NetBSD started from a Net/2 base and replaced whole parts with 4.4-lite code when it became legally available is not reason to indirectly accuse it of possibly being tainted. Tell us where, if any place, it is tainted! Otherwise please stop making this implication in postings; thank you. -Rob