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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:2846 comp.os.linux.misc:20365 Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!world!lparsons From: lparsons@world.std.com (Lee E Parsons) Subject: Re: Usefulness of BSD/Linux Source Knowledge (was BSD vs. LINUX) Message-ID: <CtM6t0.GB8@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <30jqp1$ees@grex.cyberspace.org> <30pn0a$9rf@hermes.unt.edu> <CtEuyA.En1@world.std.com> <1994Jul24.185248.5906@escape.widomaker.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:43:47 GMT Lines: 47 Shannon Hendrix <shendrix@escape.widomaker.com> wrote: >Lee E Parsons (lparsons@world.std.com) wrote: >: With Linux I felt I would be spending my time learning the guts of >: a system written by Linus. While that may be very educational it doesnt >: do much for my ability to say "Our OS works like THIS" > >He wrote it following POSIX and standard UNIX so it's mostly the same. But in the case of *BSD it doesnt just LOOK the same, it IS the same code. There is a value to being able to hack the code on which many of my current production systems where based. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought a major feature of Linux was that it was a unencumbered rewrite. If so, then we have to accept that reality that even if Linux does the same things as other Commercial Unixes it doesnt do them the same way. >Because BSD is dead. I wish it were not so because I prefer BSD but >SVR4.2 is the future of UNIX, not BSD. You actually made a wrong >choice by your own critieria. Sorry I must have missed that memo. I'll go down stairs and tell them to stop Payroll. I take it then we have decided to throw out everything we have learned from the FFS and VM manager. The industry has no plans to implement the new security modules of 4.4BSD. Will I be getting a newsletter or something when we yank out all that ugly networking code Karels and Van Jacobson hacked out? The whole BSD project was a total complete failure? Bummer. Let's not confuse the User interface with how the Guts of the system works. I dont give a flip if ps uses -ef or -aux, but I would like to know how the scheduler works. If you want to make the claim that Linux is a super set of *BSD then fine do so but stop trying to convice me that I am wasteing my time on some great snip hunt. Features developed in BSD are part of all useful versions of Unix (commercial or otherwise) and will be for the next decade. -- Regards, Lee E. Parsons Systems Oracle DBA lparsons@world.std.com