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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:2892 comp.os.linux.misc:20530 Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!calcite!vjs From: vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (Vernon Schryver) Subject: Re: Usefulness of BSD/Linux Source Knowledge (was BSD vs. LINUX) Message-ID: <CtpGAt.FAu@calcite.rhyolite.com> Organization: Rhyolite Software Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:01:41 GMT References: <1994Jul24.185248.5906@escape.widomaker.com> <cln.775305310@dynamo> <1994Jul29.041113.7319@escape.widomaker.com> Lines: 36 In article <1994Jul29.041113.7319@escape.widomaker.com> shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) writes: > ... > Networking really takes a hit... I >supposed it's STREAMS based in solaris 2.x? ... Yes, as I wrote before, I'm told it's Mentat STREAMS, and that it's now about as fast as the BSD code that it replaced. > ... >: why is bsd dead? there are _several_ commercial bsd >: unixes available, but no linux ones. i don't see why >: you think bsd is dead. > >I mean dead in the sense that UNIX vendors are moving away from it >and it's not likely that future systems will be running BSD. They'll >ship with SysV UNIX. Many already are. Of course, I'm sure BSD >will get ported to them if people find the time but it won't be from >the vendors and thus most of the machines will be running SysV. Please stop repeating that statement. You keep saying it, but that doesn't make it true, any more than the repetitions by AT&T and USL salesdroids has made it true since they first said "System V is the emerging UNIX standard" in about 1984. It is somewhat less silly than the 1986 AT&T description of RFS as "the emerging network file system standard," but not enough to care about. My personal guess, as a senior UNIX kernel hack employed by one of the big 5 UNIX vendors, is that SVR4 will be just as successful as SVR3. In other words, most systems will claim SVR4 compatibility, but many will not actually be SVR4. An example is your favored solar brand of UNIX, which does as we've gone around and around about, does not have SVR4 TCP/IP. Vernon Schryver vjs@rhyolite.com