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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!stever From: stever@csuohio.edu (Steve Ratliff) Subject: Re: (Bug)Report on FreeBSD-Installation LONG Message-ID: <1994Aug3.060259.13964@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <31aq3s$mo1@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 06:02:59 GMT Lines: 91 Thomas Heiling (tom@wpzd07.pzlc.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote: [deleted] : I tried the Installation on a 386/40 MHZ with 8 MB, : two Ethernet card ( a HP Ethercard and an SMC Ultra ). : After the first 2 hours, I was still unable to get this : working -> So I took the old 8 bit HP Ethernet card out, : and now the Installation works o.k. The GENERICAH kernels have a lot of devices compiled in and the probes for these can hang or mangle the settings on some pc hardware cards. This is more of a problem with the ISA bus and PC architecture than it is with FreeBSD. I know that the Linux solution is to provide a half dozen or more kernels with various devices compiled in. FreeBSD has tried to do a two sizes fits all approach which has it's benefits and drawbacks. : 2. Programs which are not in the bindist, but in the srcdist : zic, unfortunately I haven't found updatedb, it is under : /usr/libexec as locate.updatedb locate.updatedb is what you should use and zic isn't really needed just do a ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Your_timezone /etc/localtime : 3. Problems with the setup : - There is not enough space on the root Directory to save : a kernel core dump. ( Don't ask how I know this ! ) : I have done a mkdir /usr/crash and symbolic linked this : to /var/crash : - I have made a /usr/tmp directory for temporary space : and added a setenv TMPDIR=/usr/tmp. Without this big : packages won't fit in the default /var/tmp. : - If you want online reference for /usr/share/doc with : tbl ?.T | groff -Tascii -ms -o1- there is a : "Missing font S error" and you cannot look at the manual. The default sizes are for people with minimum hard disk space and shouldn't be used for a "production" system. Most people would not know what to do with a kernel core dump and those that do know enough will choose larger sizes than the defaults. I beleive that you can generate ascii versions of the documentation by editing /etc/make.conf and setting "PRINTER=ascii" in it and then cd /usr/src/share; make install; 4. and 5. probably should be documented better. : 6.a) Building the Whole universe - Make world : I saw now information about how to do a complete rebuild from : the system. Looked in the Makefile and decided a "make world" : should do this. : You get Warnings in : lipthread, libm : And the build dumps core in libg++, so what ? - : I give up for now, it is friday and I start in the weekend, : maybe next week I will try again. If you are just trying to recompile everything without major source changes or library modifications you will have far better luck with just a cd /usr/src; make depend all install; I've had make worlds screw up on me before as well (sometimes for unkown reasons). : - Acessing DOS-Partitions is more difficult than a mount -t msdos Try mount -t pcfs /dev/Pick_drive-Partition /Mount_point : For a small system like this you must strip XFree, this means : you must use fvwm as windowmanager and rxvt as term, but for : this you need libxpm. These compile pretty near out of the box as do most common apps. Beleive it or not as a FreeBSD user sunsite.unc.edu is my favorite ftp-site for apps under the /pub/Linux directory. :) :) :) The freebsd cdrom has just about everything that you need or mention in your posting and if you do not wish to buy it then you can ftp everything on it from freebsd.cdrom.com. For those unfortunate people who do not have internet access or disposable income :) they are sort of at the mercy of others to get them what they need. This goes for both FreeBSD and Linux. I do agree that Linux does a better job of modularizing the packaging of various apps and distributions. Hopefully FreeBSD 2.0 or 2.1 will do an improved job of it. Steve -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stever@babbage.cba.csuohio.edu "What's better than a free OS?" " A free OS with source." FreeBSD at freebsd.cdrom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------