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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:3059 comp.os.linux.misc:21215 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!ponderous.cc.iastate.edu!michaelv From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: source of TCP/IP (was I hope this wont ignite a major flame ...) Date: 6 Aug 94 05:05:15 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Lines: 51 Message-ID: <michaelv.776149515@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> References: <31od8d$15l@fw.novatel.ca> <31pc9l$ctp@oscar.agcs.com> <michaelv.775964561@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <31ujob$e9d@oscar.agcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ponderous.cc.iastate.edu In <31ujob$e9d@oscar.agcs.com> robertsw@agcs.com (Wallace Roberts) writes: >michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes: >>In other words: real hackers don't need comments, because they can >>figure it out from the magic numbers. >"if you can't stand the heat of the kitchen..." That's really about the worst application of that analogy I've seen. "If you can't stand really poorly written code, don't use it." Thanks, I won't. >besides, complaining about the dearth of comments in free device-driver >code smacks strongly of looking a gift horse in the mouth, not to >mention whining. Not when there's much better free software out there. I'm not saying that *all* of Linux is badly written -- obviously it's not -- this is just one snippet of code. But I can't believe someone is actually wasting their time defending a piece of code that is obviously badly commented, will be difficult to maintain, and just plain defies most good coding standards. >>Yup, that's a real strong argument. Sheesh! Even Microsoft writes >>their code better than that... (Yes, I do know.) >---------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >you've viewed microlimp code? do the lobotomy scars still show? Yes, I have worked with MicroSoft source. Scary. And, funny thing is, the name I gave my NT workstation is "Lobotomy" (the machine at one of my three jobs -- my other jobs are on unix machines, thank God). My hard drive partions on Lobotomy are DainBramage and BadTrip. Ironic that you would bring that up... ;-) But, the key point is, they know how to abstract properly, and they document well. Seems like the only way to do things if there's more than just one person (potentially) working in the same code. >"beware the power of the darkside." Oh, don't worry... my *own* computer at home has 600MB of unix, and not a byte of Microsloth on it. And that will never change. :-) -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael L. VanLoon Iowa State University Computation Center michaelv@iastate.edu Project Vincent Systems Staff Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free Un*x for PC/Mac/Amiga/etc. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -