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From: deeken@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Hannes Deeken)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: source of TCP/IP (was I hope this wont ignite a major flame ...)
Date: 7 Aug 1994 14:12:29 +0200
Organization: TU Darmstadt, ITI
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robertsw@agcs.com (Wallace Roberts) writes:
>deeken@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Hannes Deeken) writes:
>>Sure, you can figure out what these number means, if you have
>>the manuals.
>isn't that what i wrote? "you are expected to have the h/w manuals
>handy."
*sigh* Yes, you wrote that. And I repeated it. So what?
>ok, follow closely; it may get a little deep for you.
Don't think so. But you should try to avoid everything which is
related in any way to *shudder* "Software Engineering". It might blow
your fuses.
>the numbers used in masking usually are cumulative, i.e., each bit has a
>meaning. do you expect the guy writing the driver to spell out each bit
>for you, then inclusive or them all together so you won't have to hurt
>yourself?
No, what I expect from a programmer is _maintainable_ code. You don't
seem to know what that means. Never worked in a team, right?
>>Ever heard of the '#define' directive available with the C preprocessor?
>ever hear of the "death of a thousand #define's?" if you #define each
>bit's meaning, then or them all together, things can get unwieldy in a
>hurry:
> rx_status &= (PWR_BIT | TST_BIT | OH_BIT | HS_BIT | DTR_BIT | RXD_BIT | TXD_BIT | BUTT_BIT);
>ugh.
Yeah, "ugh". Really horrible. Everybody would be able to read that.
>>Attitudes like yours are normally found in old programmers working
>>on IBM mainframes and hacking /370 assembler or JCL.
>sounds like you speak from close personal experience.
Exactly. I've had to deal with attitudes like these in the past.
They are expensive in terms of manpower and time.
>>>"if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch..."
>>
>>Well... maybe you should follow your own advice...
>mere mortal. you are not worthy to lick the sweat from my balls.
I wonder how old this guy is... 12? 14?
Hannes
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