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From: michel@whirlwind.seas.ucla.edu (Scott Michel)
Subject: Re: STREAMS  (was I hope this wont ignite ...)
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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 00:57:59 GMT
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>>>>> "Vernon" == Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> writes:
In article <Cu4oAu.CJ3@calcite.rhyolite.com> vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:

Vernon> It does help a little to separate the pronouncements of
Vernon> those who know what they know about STREAMS by reading
Vernon> "Comm.Week" from those who have seen some System V STREAMS
Vernon> kernel code.

Never heard of Communications Weekly (Comm.Week), nor have I had to
look at SysV internal code (thank god!)

Vernon> The thesis of the person who started this sub-thread
Vernon> seemed to me to be "STREAMS is a fine scheme for fast
Vernon> networking code and may be important before long,
Vernon> especially with the work of Mentat."

Never claimed that it was good for "high performance bit pushing",
simply that from a design point of view, STREAMS has more appeal than
does the BSD implementation. If you constantly look through a
microscope, your vision tends to remain narrow.

Some of what you had to say was interesting, if you were trying to
disseminate information and education (i.e. BSD does a finer job at
being able to bit push). However, your soapbox mentality and automagic
assumption that I'm in management (when all I really did is look at
things from a macro POV) hurts your credibility.

-scottm