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Xref: sserve comp.unix.bsd:3518 misc.int-property:379 gnu.misc.discuss:5892 Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!olivea!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ai-lab!life.ai.mit.edu!friedman From: friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,misc.int-property,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: LPF's position on USL vs. BSDI lawsuit Message-ID: <FRIEDMAN.92Aug11055203@nutrimat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Date: 11 Aug 92 09:52:03 GMT Sender: news@ai.mit.edu Followup-To: misc.int-property Organization: Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139 Lines: 78 [The following is a statement from the LPF which I am posting on their behalf. Followups have been directed to misc.int-property. -noah] People have asked why the LPF hasn't said anything about the lawsuit by USL (a subsidiary of AT&T) against the University of California at Berkeley and against BSDI. The reason is because we don't yet know whether this lawsuit falls within the scope of concern of the LPF. This is because the USL allegations are vague. The crucial claim is that 27. This statement is likewise materially false and misleading in that, to the extent the BSDI "LICENSED PROGRAM" is (as BSDI claims) based upon Berkeley's Networking Release 2, it is in fact based upon, copied from or derived from AT&T's code, such that users of the BSDI program require a license from AT&T or its successor, USL. and it is not clear what sort of illegality is charged. This could be an allegation that actual code was copied, in which case the issue is not one of concern to the LPF. The LPF stands for the freedom to write software, but it is not opposed to owning individual programs that one has written, and this includes USL. On the other hand, perhaps an interface copyright claim is lurking within "otherwise derived". Or USL could interpret it this way if other interpretations prove unfavorable. This would bring the case directly within the LPF's area of concern. However, the case may fall into the area of programming freedom in a wider sense, as an example of using the power of money to harass. For several reasons, the actions of USL would be an abuse even if the allegation were true: NET2 is a collection of many different programs and parts of programs written by different people and institutions. While they work together, they are unrelated as regards authorship. To charge that NET2 as a single entity infringes some (unspecified) right is like pointing at a bookstore and saying that its entire contents are illegal because of unidentified books. USL has not even specified what sort of illegality they allege; they want BSDI to be judged as vaguely in the wrong, disregarding what sort of copying and distribution the law permits. USL originally sued BSDI, alleging misconduct by UCB, not by BSDI. At the time, UCB had received no word of complaint from USL about the releases of free software, which had begun in 1988. The release of NET2 took place about a year before the lawsuit against BSDI. UCB made assiduous efforts to avoid including any AT&T code in the NET2 release, and this included several attempts over a period of years to ask USL whether they regarded certain programs as in any way violating their copyrights or trade secrets. USL refused to answer. USL has sued the lawyers of BSDI and UCB, merely for raising objections to the questions that USL wanted Mike Karels to answer. Perhaps these issues should be a matter of concern to the LPF, even though the legality of copying code is not one. However, the problems of our legal system exposed here have nothing specifically to do with software; the ability of the wealthy to deny others their legal rights is a general phenomenon. Also, the main focus of the LPF is on changing the legal system for software, not on individual cases, and it is not clear what change in the system we should advocate to solve these problems. This case does not suggest a need for changes in copyright or trade secret law for software because the defendants will probably win under existing law--provided they can manage to last until the case is decided. [ for more info about the LPF, write to league@prep.ai.mit.edu --noah ]