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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!news.adelaide.edu.au!gateway.dircsa.org.au!cleese.apana.org.au!cleese.apana.org.au!not-for-mail From: newton@cleese.apana.org.au (Mark Newton) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: Re: BSDI and SLIP Date: 3 Sep 1994 07:58:01 +0930 Organization: cleese.apana.org.au Public Access UNIX +61-8-3736006 Lines: 40 Message-ID: <3488th$rov@cleese.apana.org.au> References: <Brad-3108942046080001@btmedia.mankato.mn.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: cleese.apana.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] In article <Brad-3108942046080001@btmedia.mankato.mn.us>, Brad Theissen (Brad@BTMedia.Mankato.MN.US) wrote: > Has anyone much experience with the BSDI product and setting up users as > SLIP connections? > I think our users would prefer using their favorite Macintosh or Windows > (or even MSDOS) Internet utilities, rather than the BSD command lines... > especially since we haven't yet found a BSD GOPHER. Arrgh! Maybe this is proof that small, insignificant things annoy me, but I really can't let this rest. Tell me: How come Free UNIX people seem to think that they need special versions of generic software for their free OS? Brad: Have you *ever* just ftp'ed "gopher.tar.gz", extracted it, and compiled it? Trust me, it compiles out-of-the-box. To anyone who expects magic "ports" of every bit of software they want to use: Your OS is descended from *standard* Berkeley software. It is generic. It is ubiquious. In the vast majority of cases, you can ftp any UNIX source code and install it by typing "make bsd" without leaning up against the post and waiting for some poor bastard to "port" it for you and install the results in the packages tree on freebsd.cdrom.com. I ftp'ed my gopher client from archie.au, Brad. I also grabbed xgopher from the same site, which is just as good as any Windoze client for new users (IMHO). Both clients compiled out-of-the-box; all I had to do was change the directory specs in the makefiles to suit my preferences and type "make". You'll find that it's the same for virtually everything else. - mark -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- I tried an internal modem, newton@cleese.apana.org.au but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton ----- Voice: +61-8-3735575 --------------- Data: +61-8-3736006 -----