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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!mimuw.edu.pl!news From: <wgalazka@chem.uw.edu.pl> Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: Re: What is BSDi- summary Date: Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:03:27 +0100 Organization: Department of Maths and Computer Science, Warsaw University Lines: 72 Message-ID: <62737.wgalazka@chem.uw.edu.pl> Reply-To: <wgalazka@chem.uw.edu.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: caesar.chem.uw.edu.pl X-Minuet-Version: Minuet1.0_Beta_16 X-POPMail-Charset: English Hi all, One nice day in comp.os.386bsd.questions I asked: >Hi all, >What is BSDi? Is it just BSD386 that costs over $1000? But I heard BSDi is a >freely available Unix system for 386/486? So what? j@bonnie.tcd-dresden.de (J Wunsch) wrote: Just in case nobody answered this yet: yes, BSDi is the company selling BSD/386, and they sell it for ~ $1000. Though i do not know it myself, every guy speaking up in Usenet about BSDi liked it. They are said to have a very excellent support, the average bug fixing is less than one day (if you have email, of course). I guess it's the only commercial system that comes with source, for the benefit they can provide source patches, and the customer simply recompiles the part in question. Btw., FreeBSDs binaries run on BSDi, even shared executables:-) (As long as the shared libs have been exported, too - BSDi does not yet support shared libs.) I'm not sure how many people would be out there not knowing about BSDi... (You should know that BSDionce got rather famous since they -- a very small company -- have been sued by USL, and the legal hassles about a commercial BSD have been settled some months ago.) | >(As long as the shared libs have been exported, too - BSDi does not | >yet support shared libs.) | You say lack of shared libraries? Hmm, it doesn't sound pretty :( | But maybe someone fix this in near future ..:) Hmm, the legal fight might have costed them valuable time which would have better spent into improving the system. Another reason: they're trying to make the system rock solid instead of putting every new feature into it. Since now both, NetBSD and FreeBSD have shared libs (using the Sun model), with a from-scratch re-implementation done by Paul Kranenburg, i assume BSDi would adopt this feature in the near future. But due to the terms of their settlement with USL, they are urged to complete their port of a 4.4BSD-Lite based system, so this is certainly the #1 of their todo list now. If you need more info, try asking info@bsdi.com, i'm sure they'll answer your questions. ---- And thrasher@mcs.com (Brendan J. F. Scallon) added that BDSi has been available by ftp at wcarchive.cdrom.com (Note: because of the lawsuit by Novell against Berkeley, it will be most of the time busy) Unfortumately I was unable to connect to this ftp site never but only once I've seen 43 MB tar & gzipped source code of 4.4 BSD Lite and the connection hanged :( Other people (mainly from Polish group PC UN**X) said they found the system worth interesting as it has nice support and the manuals are well and clearly written. It is the the only commercial operating UNIX system for Intels that comes with full source code. BTW There are 3 discussion groups related to BDSi alt.os.bsd info.bsdi.users alt.suit.att-bsdi >> Wojciech Galazka << | Wojciech Galazka <wgalazka@chem.uw.edu.pl> | Computer Center, Chemistry Department, University of Warsaw | Pasteura 1, 02-093 Warsaw, Poland ->> A happy FreeBSD user <<-