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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!michaelv From: michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: Re: DooM for NetBSD, will it become a reality? Date: 18 Sep 1994 20:20:42 GMT Organization: HeadCandy Associates... Sweets for the lobes. Lines: 54 Message-ID: <MICHAELV.94Sep18152042@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> References: <3595ak$l2i@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu> <MICHAELV.94Sep15214739@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> <35hgjs$t2n@fw.novatel.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: stingray.cc.iastate.edu In-reply-to: hpeyerl@sidney.novatel.ca's message of 18 Sep 1994 13:50:52 GMT In article <35hgjs$t2n@fw.novatel.ca> hpeyerl@sidney.novatel.ca (Herb Peyerl) writes: Michael L. VanLoon (michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com) wrote: and someone had sent him a Linux box. He said he hadn't heard a word from the *BSD camps and was sorry but he wouldn't be doing a *BSD port. : Definitely. Let's get all the *BSDers together and do a mail blitz! Please don't bother the nice man. It would seem you've already had your chance. Thanks for pointing out that I've already had "my chance". But, I don't think that sending him a 286 with an EGA wonder and a monochrome monitor would do him much good. Since that's the only excess equipment I own, and everything else I have I need for daily work, and I have invested heavily in what little I own to make that possible, I don't think I missed anything. While it would be nice if someone who were more equipment-rich would loan him something, it would also be nice if a commercial software company would also follow through and serve a market if they're going to step into it to begin with (free "unix" market). I will not install Linux just so I can run Doom, and I will not be buying Doom, since I don't run Linux or Windoze (at home). So, it appears to me that it is Id who had their chance and missed it. While the NetBSD/FreeBSD market won't make a large dent on their bottom line, I'm sure a commercial software house has to have at least enough resource to temporarily devote ONE PC to a quick port to the free BSD's. The fact that they played favoritism to the Linux whiners, simply because there are so much more of them, and they had the resources to donate a PC to a commercial company, leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. If they believe in free unix, they should follow through and just get the other two ports finished -- there has to be one free PC in the company they could use, I would hope. If they only believe in free unix when it's convenient, then I will simply avoid all their products until the time that it is convenient for them to make products that work for me. So, I guess what I'm saying is: it would be great if someone could donate a NetBSD/FreeBSD computer to them for a port. But it shouldn't be *expected* that a computer need be donated to every commercial company simply to get a port of whatever software is in question, done for our OS. After all, isn't the sole reason we pay money to these people so that they can use *their* resources to develop software that works for us? -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com michaelv@iastate.edu Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x for PC/Mac/Amiga/etc. Working NetBSD ports: 386+PC, Mac, Amiga, HP300, Sun3, Sun4c, PC532 In progress: DEC pmax (MIPS R2k/3k), VAX, Sun4m - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -