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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.questions:13502 comp.os.386bsd.misc:3560 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!news.adelaide.edu.au!gateway.dircsa.org.au!cleese.apana.org.au!apanix.apana.org.au!hart From: hart@apanix.apana.org.au (Leigh Hart) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: How UTTERLY Amazing! (Was Re: FreeBSD vs NetBSD) Date: 30 Sep 94 21:14:17 GMT Organization: Apanix Public Access Unix, +61 8 373 5485 (5 lines) Lines: 91 Message-ID: <hart.780959657@apanix.apana.org.au> References: <358o3g$p95@umd5.umd.edu> <jmonroyCwKFI2.6C0@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: seldon.apanix.apana.org.au jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes: > OK... guys.. please no flames. *cough* too late, didn't notice this bit until it was too late :-) >Alok K. Dhir (adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu) wrote: >: I hate to ask this question, but I really need to make a decision on a Free >: unix soon. I am currently running FreeBSD 1.1.5.1, and am happy overall. >: I understand that NetBSD 1.0 will soon be released. I am curious as to >: the advantages of one over the other. Do they match one another feature >: for feature? What is NetBSD based on, BSD 4.3 or 4.4/lite? >: > 386bsd Release 1.0 is report to be ready soon. > To be quite clear on this, the delay is now in > it's fourth month. > > When will 386bsd R1.0 be ready? > That's almost an oxymoron question. > You'll know when I know... that's the best I can say > for now. Translation (tabs included for maximum value!): I haven't a clue. Let me ignore your question and use your post as an exchose to dribble a bit more about Vapour Ware. >: I have found compiling things for FreeBSD is sometimes a bit of a chore >: (as compared to Linux and NeXTStep, which I also run), especially >: since there is usually not a default config for it (for example, with >: gcc, pine, and misc others). Is netbsd in the same boat? >: > Since Bill Jolitz is the original author of 386bsd > and the basis for FreeBSD and NetBSD, it is safe > to assume that porting should be an easy task. My god this man is thick. >: The machines are ASUS 486/66 motherboards with ATI Graphics Ultra Pro PCI >: 2mb graphics boards and onboard PCI SCSI. I have purchased SMC Ultra 16T >: NICs for use with these machines. As far as I know, FreeBSD supports >: this configuration (has NCR PCI drivers, and supports the BB2016 multi- >: port serial card). Does NetBSD have support for my hardware configuration >: as well (if it doesn't, my decision is easy ;-). >: > On your list of hardware I can say that 386bsd does *NOT* > support that architecture at this time. Jesus, when someone asks you if a pork chop is better than a leg of lamb, do you try to sell them a copy of the nonexistant 386bsd CDROM instead of answering the question? I can just imagine the queue at Burger King: Attendant: Would you like fries or wedges with your burger, sir? Customer: Hmmm, which is better? Jesus: HEY! YOU AT THE START OF THE QUEUE! ASK IF THEY HAVE 386BSD, THEY PROBABLY DON'T, AND I HAVN'T TRIED IT, BUT I KNOW IT JUST _HAS_ TO BE BETTER! >: FreeBSD 2.0 is just around the corner as well (perhaps not as close as >: NetBSD), but I need things up and running in the next month or so. Are >: there any compelling reasons to wait to FreeBSD 2.0 instead of using NetBSD >: 1.0 when its released? >: > There are as many reasons to wait for 386bsd R1.0 as > any of the others. Yea, right. I'll settle for the wedges, thanks. >: Last question - where are the NetBSD mailing lists? >: > Lists for 386bsd are maintained, at this time, > by the Jolitzs' God you must frustrate the hell out your local psychology department. >/386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation You might as well add /fries /with /that /sir? Cheers Leigh -- | "By the time they had diminished | Leigh Hart | | from 50 to 8, the other dwarves | <hart@eppie.apana.org.au> | | began to suspect 'Hungry' ..." | C/- 195 Gilles Street | | -- Gary Larson, "The Far Side" | Adelaide SA 5006 |