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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux.misc:26606 comp.os.386bsd.misc:3673 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!xmission!u.cc.utah.edu!cs.weber.edu!terry From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? Date: 10 Oct 1994 00:16:46 GMT Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT Lines: 42 Message-ID: <37a15e$bel@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <36djkn$nm8@girtab.usc.edu> <36qeaf$jt4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <MICHAELV.94Oct4095313@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.weber.edu In article <MICHAELV.94Oct4095313@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon) writes: ] This should be taken with a large bucket of salt, however (as Terry ] Lambert points out), since none of the systems have had an official ] POSIX verification suite run on them. Actually, VSX (the X/Open POSIX validation suite) and NIST/PCTS (the American National Institute of Standards and Technology POSIX validation suite) have been run against FreeBSD, NetBSD, and Linux. Conformance and use of the POSIX tradmark have more to do with the process of getting the tests run by an official lab and branded by X/Open or NIST than they have to do with how the OS's did in the tests. For those who care, the order from least exceptions to most exceptions was NetBSD, FreeBSD, Linux for NIST and Linux, NetBSD, FreeBSD for VSX. I didn't run the tests, I don't have that kind of money; so don't pester me. 8-). None of them passed with less than 35/49 exceptions in either run. If someone wants to kick $50,000 out for a lab certification *after* fixing all the exceptions -- $150,000 for the testbed -- be my guest. Of course this is all irrelevent since none of the three groups constitute a legal entity that can entery into contracts. And without Spec 1170 having been ratified, UNIX branding (the most interesting one) still requires going through the old branding processs -- ie: licensing and using SVR4 sources. It's stupid to argue about standards conformance when all one side can say is "Oh Yeah?" and all the other side can say is "Yeah!" and neither side can do anything about the challenge "put up or shut up"... except "shut up". Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.