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From: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.announce
Subject: Semimonthly Software list for *BSD
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Date: 15 Oct 1994 02:36:47 GMT
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Last Modified: 1994/09/16 15:27 MEST
This is an announcement for *BSD users. It provides a software list
for FreeBSD & NetBSD (and maybe other BSD systems ?). This list is divided
into three sections and it will be posted 2 times a month (1st and 15th).
This list only can be up to date when YOU, the *BSD community tell me about
changes of the programs & ports. I won't (and can't) look everyday if
there's something new or if there are any versions changed so you have to
tell me ! I take no guarantee for the actuality of this list !
The first section shows a list of ported software & binary packages which can
be obtained from freebsd.cdrom.com. It's a list of FreeBSD software and some of
these programs maybe won't run under NetBSD (someone told me) so can anyone
from the NetBSD-Front send me such a list for the NetBSD people ?
If something's changed please don't hesitate to mail me and tell me what
has been changed ! Our links to the US are very bad, so I can't check
if packages have been deleted/updated/added !
The second section is a software list from other UNIX communities (e.g. Linux
and others) which can be ported very easily so there's no need for a real port
and we can save disk space. It's also the place for miscellanous stuff like
binary packages & other things on different places.
That means you, the *BSD community, have to check which programs and sources
can be installed without any problems so that they don't need to be added to
the packages directories.
If you find any useful software which doesn't appear in this list, please send
me a mail with the following form:
Subject: Software list for *BSD
category:server(inetnum):path/program:description [changes]
E.g. category is communication or diskutils etc., server and inetnum is the
address of the FTP-server, path/program is the path and the name of the program
where to find this application, description could be some short statements and
optional minimal changes (inetnum is also optional). By the way: please add
a comment on which system you tested the software (FreeBSD or NetBSD & Version)!
The third section is a commercial software list.
If you want to provide Software for the commercial section please send me a
mail with the following form:
Subject: Software list for *BSD (commercial)
productname:company:Tel/Fax:address:description [email/ftp]
The entry email/ftp is optional if the company offers information via
mail- or ftp-server.
We won't list prices here unless I will get dozens of mails from users who are
begging for a price list or a company will send me millions of dollars. :-)
I think if you ask at these companies, they will give you the price for their
product so we don't have to mention it in this list.
If you would like to change something or if you have any suggestions/proposals
(perhaps you don't understand my bad english ?) so feel free to write me at
uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de
Your comments are welcome !
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I. Packages & ported software for FreeBSD (& maybe NetBSD ?)
You can find these ported programs (sources) as subtree at:
freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports
Subdirectory audio:
------------------
netaudio
Version: ???
Comment: Network Audio System
snd-util
Version: 1.0
Comment: Miscellaneous Sound Driver Utilities
Subdirectory comm:
------------------
flexfax
Version: 2.2 BETA
Comment: Fax Send/Receive Software
kermit
Version: 5A(189)
Comment: Kermit Communications Package
rzsz
Version: 3.32.1
Comment: ZModem Communications Package
seyon
Version: ???
Comment: X windows Communications Package
term
Version: 1.07
Comment: Terminal-Multiplexing Utility
Subdirectory db:
----------------
ingres
Version: 8.9
Comment: UCB Ingres Database
Subdirectory devel:
-------------------
cflow
Version: ???
Comment: Functional Call Hierarchy Tool
dejagnu
Version: 1.0
Comment: GNU Program Test Suite
gdb
Version: 4.11
Comment: GNU Debugger
gic
Version: 1.1
Comment: Graphical Interface to CVS
gmake
Version: 3.69
Comment: GNU Make Utility
mprof
Version: 3.0
Comment: Memory Profiler and Leak Detector
Subdirectory editor:
--------------------
aXe
Version: 6.0
Comment: aXe editor
emacs
Version: 19.25
Comment: GNU Emacs
point
Version: ???
Comment: point - the Tk based screen editor
uemacs
Version: 3.12
Comment: Micro EMACS Editor
vile
Version: ???
Comment: vile - VI-Like emacs
Subdirectory game:
-------------------
golddig
Version: 2
Comment: an X arcade game
nethack
Version: ???
Comment: Nethack game
seahaven
Version: ???
Comment: solitaire card game
xboing
Version: 1.8
Comment: breakout-line X game with sound
xjewel
Version: 1.6
Comment: tetris-like X game
xmines
Version: ???
Comment: Minesweeper game
xpilot
Version: ???
Comment: Multi User Shoot 'em up game
xtrek
Version: ???
Comment: Star Trek game
Subdirectory lang:
------------------
bwbasic
Version: 2.10
Comment: Bywater BASIC Interpreter/Shell
logo
Version: 3.0.1
Comment: UCB LOGO language
perl
Version: 4.0 PL36
Comment: PERL Language
sather
Version: 0.5.3
Comment: Sather Compiler
schemetoc
Version: 15mar93
Comment: Scheme->C, a scheme compiler
scm
Version: 4d3
Comment: Scheme Interpreter
sml
Version: 0.93
Comment: Standard ML compiler
tcl
Version: 7.3
Comment: Tool Command Language
tclX
Version: ???
Comment: Extended TCL
xlispstat
Version: ???
Comment: xlispstat - a lisp based statistical plotting package (2D/3D)
Subdirectory mail:
------------------
elm
Version: 2.4
Comment: Elm Mail Reader
mh
Version: 6.8
Comment: Mail Software
mush
Version: 7.2.5
Comment: Mail User's Shell
popper
Version: 1.7
Comment: Post Office Protocol
Subdirectory math:
------------------
blas
Version: 1, 2 & 3
Comment: Linear Algebra Routines
eispack
Version: ???
Comment: Matrix Eigensystem Routines
linpack
Version: ???
Comment: Linear algebra package
octave
Version: 0.72
Comment: Numerical Problem-Solving Language
Subdirectory net:
-----------------
dgd
Version: 1.0.a6
Comment: DGD (MUD server), with LPmud 2.4.5++ example simulation lib
gopher
Version: 2.0 PL6
Comment: INTERNET Information Browsing Tool
lynx
Version: ???
Comment: WWW client for use with non graphic terminals
ncftp
Version: ???
Comment: special ftp
sup
Version: ???
Comment: CMU network file updating protocol
wu-ftpd
Version: ???
Comment: Wuarchive FTP
ytalk
Version: 3.2
Comment: ytalk - requires XFree86
zircon
Version: 1.15
Comment: Zircon, the Tk/DP based IRC client
Subdirectory news:
------------------
cnews
Version: 930220
Comment: USENET News Software C-News
inn
Version: 1.4
Comment: Internet News Software
nntp
Version: 1.5.11
Comment: Network News Transfer Protocol
slurp
Version: 1.08
Comment: Advanced Passive NNTP Client
trn
Version: 3.2
Comment: Threaded Newsreader
Subdirectory print:
-------------------
afm
Version: ???
Comment: Adobe Font Metrics
dvi2lj
Version: ???
Comment: DVI to HP LaserJet Filter
tex
Version: 3.14t3
Comment: TeX Document Formatting Language
texk
Version: 3.1415 (C Version 6.1)
Comment: TeX document formatting system
texinfo
Version: 3.0
Comment: GNU Texinfo Support
Subdirectory shell:
-------------------
bash
Version: 1.13
Comment: GNU Bourne Again Shell
ksh
Version: 4.9
Comment: Korn Shell
tcsh
Version: 6.04
Comment: C-Shell w/Advanced Features
zsh
version: 2.3.1
Comment: ZSH shell
Subdirectory util:
------------------
expect
Version: 4 ALPHA
Comment: I/O Processing / Parsing Tool
ile
Version: ???
Comment: ile - the Interactive Line Editor (for other programs)
iozone
Version: ???
Comment: Disk Benchmark Utility
ispell
Version 3.1
Comment: Interactive spelling checker
less
Version: 1.77
Comment: Text Pager
md5
Version: none
Comment: cryptographic checksums
mtools
Version: 2.0.7
Comment: MS-DOS File Xfer Tools
pcvt
Version: ???
Comment: Syscons & PCcons Replacement (Virtual Console Driver)
pkg_install
Version: 1.0
Comment: Package Installation Software
readline
Version: ???
Comment: GNU readline library
sc
Version: 6.21
Comment: Spreadsheet Calculator
screen
Version: 3.5.1
Comment: Multi-screen utility
ss
Version: 1.2 BETA
Comment: Spreadsheet Calculator (sc) w/Changes
syscons_xtra
Version: 1.0
Comment: Extra Utilities for Syscons Driver
tcx
Version: 1.1
Comment: Transparently Compressed Executables
top
Version: 3.2
Comment: A System Monitoring Utility
unshar
Version: ???
Comment: SHarchive Unpacker
wine
Version: ???
Comment: Microsoft Windows Support
Subdirectory util/archiver:
---------------------------
lha
Version: 1.01u
Comment: LHa Archive Utility
unarj
Version: 2.41
Comment: ARJ Archive Utility
unzip
Version: 5.1D/1.04/2.1
Comment: ZIP Archive Utilities
zoo
Version: ???
Comment: Zoo Archive Utilities
zip
Version: 1.9 PL1/5.0 PL1
Comment: Zip/Unzip Archiving Utils
Subdirectory x11:
-----------------
blt
Version: 1.5
Comment: Extension toolkit for TK
ghostscript
Version: 2.61 PL4
Comment: GNU Postscript Interpreter
ghostview
Version: 1.5
Comment: Ghostscript Companion Previewer
ezd
Version: 15mar93
Comment: easy drawing for X programs
fvwm
Version: 1.21zf
Comment: fvwm window manager - requires XPM
iv
Version: 3.1
Comment: InterViews from Stanford University and Silicon Graphics
jpeg
Version: 4A
Comment: JPEG Photo Compression Package
pbmplus
Version: 911210
Comment: Portable Bitmap Package
piewm
Version: ???
Comment: Modified tvtwm with pie menus
rxvt
Version: ???
Comment: xterm replacement
tiff
Version: 3.21
Comment: The TIFF image library
tk
Version: 3.6
Comment: TCL Toolkit
ups
Version: 2.45
Comment: UPS X-Based Debugger
urt
Version: 3.0
Comment: Utah Raster Toolkit
workman
Version: ???
Comment: Workman - audio CD player tool with Open Look graphical
interface
xcdplayer
Version: 2.2
Comment: XCdplayer
xlock
Version: 2.3
Comment: X Screen-Locker
xphoon
Version: ???
Comment: Sets X the root window to a picture of the moon in its current
phase.
xpm
Version: ???
Comment: X Pixmap Library & Utilities
xv
Version: 3.0
Comment: Picture Viewer Utility
xview
Version: 3.2
Comment: XView Library
xxgdb
Version: ???
Comment: GNU gdb debugger with X interface
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You can find the following packages (binaries) at:
freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/packages or
freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/packages-current
comm:
-----
flexfax_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: flexfax - fax software for FreeBSD
kermit_bin.tgz
Version: 5A edit 189
Comment: KERMIT file transfer protocol utility
rzsz_bin.tgz
Version: 3.32.1
Comment: Zmodem file transfer utilities
seyon_bin.tgz
Version: 2.14b
Comment: Seyon, hacked to work with FreeBSD 1.0.2 at high speeds
(requires XFree)
term_bin.tgz
Version: 1.0.7
Comment: Term mutliple login system
editor:
-------
aXe_bin.tgz
Version: 6.0
Comment: aXe editor, built with the Tcl extensions
emacs_bin.tgz
Version: 19.22
Comment: GNU Emacs text editor
ile_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: ile - the Interactive Line Editor (for other programs)
mule_bin.tgz
Version: 1.1.04
Comment: Mule, text editor
vile_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: vile - VI-Like emacs [for vi users who want to switch but
can't :-)]
games:
------
golddig_bin.tgz
Version: 2
Comment: golddig - a X11 arcade game
seahaven_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: Seahaven - a X11 solitaire card game
xboing_bin.tgz
Version: 1.8a
Comment: xboing - an X11 breakout game with audio
xjewel_bin.tgz
Version: 1.6
Comment: xjewel - a X window game similar to tetris
xpilot_bin.tgz
Version: 1.3
Comment: xpilot - Multi-player gravity war game
xtrek_bin.tgz
Version: 6.1
Comment: xtrek - X based space warfare extravaganza
lang:
-----
bwbasic_bin.tgz
Version: 2.10
Comment: Bywater BASIC Interpreter/Shell
logo_bin.tgz
Version: 3.0.1
Comment: UCB LOGO language
perl_bin.tgz
Version: 4.0
Comment: Perl patchlevel 36 scripting language
sml93_bin.tgz
Version: 0.93
Comment: Standard ML of New Jersey - a compiler for the ML language
tcl-dp_bin.tgz
Version: 3.0
Comment: TCL-DP, the TCP/IP extension package for TCL, and dpwish for Tk
tcl_bin.tgz
Version: 7.3
Comment: TCL (Tool Command Language)
xlispstat_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: xlispstat - a lisp based statistical plotting package (2D/3D)
math:
-----
blas_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: BLAS level 1, 2, and 3 (Basic Linear Algebra)
eispack_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: Eispack, Eigenvalue system package
linpack_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: Linpack, Linear Algebra package.
mail:
-----
mh_bin.tgz
Version: 6.8
Comment: MH mail software
mush_bin.tgz
Version: 7.2.5
Comment: MUSH mail user shell
net:
----
dgd_bin.tgz
Version: 1.0.a6
Comment: DGD (MUD server), with LPmud 2.4.5++ example simulation lib
gopher_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: gopher - a utility for browsing INTERNET facilities
httpd_bin.tgz
Version: 1.2
Comment: NCSA httpd daemon plus auxiliar files.
ncsa_tools_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: NCSA hdf lib and xds
sup_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: CMU's Software Update Protocol package
xftp_bin.tgz
Version: 1.1
Comment: Athena X interface to ftp - xftp (required libXaw3d.so.2.0)
xrn_bin.tgz
Version: 6.17
Comment: Athena X interface to rn - xrn (required libXaw3d.so.2.0)
ytalk_bin.tgz
Version: 3.2
Comment: ytalk - version 3.0pl2 of ytalk - requires XFree86
zircon_bin.tgz
Version: 1.15
Comment: Zircon, the Tk/DP based IRC client
shells:
-------
bash_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: GNU Borne Again Shell
ksh_bin.tgz
Version: 4.5
Comment: KSH korn shell
tcsh_bin.tgz
Version: 6.04
Comment: TCSH shell
zsh_bin.tgz
version: 2.3.1
Comment: ZSH shell
sound:
------
netaudio_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: Network Audio System - play, record, and manipulate audio data
over a network
workman_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: Workman - audio CD player tool with Open Look graphical
interface
xcdplayer_bin.tgz
Version: 2.2
Comment: XCdplayer
util:
-----
archivers_bin.tgz
Version: 1.0
Comment: ARCHIVERS a collection of various archiving utilities V1.0
(zip, lharc, zoo etc.)
gdb_bin.tgz
Version: 4.11
Comment: GNU debugger, it is still in experimental status.
gmake_bin.tgz
Version: 3.69
Comment: GNU make
iozone_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: iozone - disk I/O performance benchmark
ispell_bin.tgz
Version 3.1
Comment: Interactive spelling checker
jpeg_bin.tgz
Version: 4.0a
Comment: JPEG image compression and decompression utilities
less_bin.tgz
Version: 170
Comment: less - a pager similar to more and pg
md5_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: md5 - cryptographic checksums
mprof_bin.tgz
Version: 3.0
Comment: Memory Profiler and Leak Detector
mtools_bin.tgz
version: 2.0
Comment: Mtools - unix programs for manipulation of MSDOS filesystems
pbmplus_bin.tgz
version: ???
Comment: Portable bitmap image conversion package
sc_bin.tgz
version: 6.21
Comment: sc Spread Sheet calculator
screen_bin.tgz
Version: 3.3
Comment: Screen -- a pseudo session multiplexer
syscons_xtra_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: syscons_xtra -- extra utils for syscons console driver
tcx_bin.tgz
Version: 1.1
Comment: Tcx transparents decompression and execution utility
tex_bin.tgz
Version: 3.14t3
Comment: This is TeX
texinfo_bin.tgz
Version: 3
Comment: texinfo - a document formatter package
texk_bin.tgz
Version: 3.1415 (C Version 6.1)
Comment: TeX document formatting system
tiff_lib.tgz
Version 3.21
Comment: This is the TIFF image library
top_bin.tgz
Version: 3.2
Comment: Top 3.2 - A system monitoring utility
unshar_bin.tgz
Version: 2.3pl3
Comment: A utility used to unpack shar archives from usenet postings
x11:
----
Xaw3d_bin.tgz
Version: Release 0.6B
Comment: Three-D Athena Widgets (Xaw3d)
blt_bin.tgz
Version: 1.5
Comment: Tk toolkit extension package (big - see docs)
fvwm_bin.tgz
Version: 1.21zf
Comment: fvwm window manager - requires XPM
ghostscript_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: GNU Postscript interpreter with fonts
gnuplot_bin.tgz
Version: 3.5
Comment: command-line driven interactive function plotting utility
iv_bin.tgz
Version: 3.1
Comment: InterViews from Stanford University and Silicon Graphics
mpeg_play_bin.tgz
Version: 2.0 (Jan 27, 1993)
Comment: MPEG Video Software Decoder
point_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: point - the Tk based screen editor
rasmol_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: Rasmol, the fast molecular renderer for X11/Unix stations
rxvt_bin.tgz
Version: 1.9
Comment: rxvt, based on xvt version 1.0
tk_bin.tgz
Version: 3.6
Comment: Tk X11 toolkit for TCL
xlock_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: XLock screen saver and server locker
xpaint_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: xpaint - interactive image editor
xphoon_bin.tgz
Version: ???
Comment: Sets X the root window to a picture of the moon in its current
phase.
xpm_bin.tgz
Version: 3.2g
Comment: xpm, the X Pixmap library
xview32_bin.tgz
Version: 3.2
Comment: Xview executables libs, includes, and man pages
xxgdb_bin.tgz
Version: 1.06
Comment: XXGDB, an X window interface to the GDB debugger
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II. Easy compiling software & packages for FreeBSD & NetBSD
communications:
---------------
ftp.fgb.mw.tu-muenchen.de:/pub/linux/sunsite/apps/comm/minicom-1.5b.tgz
Comment: Communication package similar to DOS telix (seems to be
a mirror or sunsite.unc.edu)
Submitted by: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter)
Tested on: FreeBSD 1.0.2
editors:
--------
ftp.lucid.com:/pub/lemacs/lemacs-19.9-netbsd.tar.gz
Comment: Lucid Emacs 19.9 (NetBSD 0.9/XFree86)
Submitted by: james r grinter (james@blodwen.demon.co.uk)
Tested on: NetBSD 0.9
environments:
-------------
ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/AUIS/auis-6.3
Comment: Andrew User Interface System, includes MIME mailer, word
processor, spread-sheet etc.
Submitted by: <cagney@highland.oz.au> (Andrew Cagney) &
<njw@cs.city.ac.uk> (Nick Williams)
Tested on: NetBSD-0.9 (cagney)
NetBSD-current-16-apr (cagney)
FreeBSD-1.1 (njw)
orgchem.weizmann.ac.il:pub/packages-1.1/Andrew-6.3.split
Comment: Andrew-6.3 binaries for FreeBSD-1.1.5
Submitted by: <serg@klara.weizmann.ac.il> (Serge Maleyev)
Tested on: FreeBSD-1.1.5-RELEASE
mail:
-----
eddie.mit.edu:/pub/FreeBSD/mm-0.90FBSD.tar
Comment: A very powerful mail user agent, w/natural language interface
Submitted by: shawn@fenchurch.MIT.EDU (Shawn F. Mckay)
Tested on: FreeBSD ?.?
ftp.resort.com:/pub/popper.tar.Z:
Comment: POP mail server
Submitted by: banshee@resort.com (John Vinopal)
Tested on: ???
braae.ru.ac.za:/pub/FreeBSD/apps/smail-3.1.28.FBSD.tar.gz
Comment: Replacement for SENDMAIL - _much_ easier to use and configure
Submitted by: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) or
murray@its.uct.ac.za (Mark Murray)
Tested on: FreeBSD-1.1, FreeBSD-1.1.5.1
news:
-----
Braae.ru.ac.za:/pub/FreeBSD/apps/nn_src.tgz
Comment: Newsreader nn
Submitted by: g89r4222@alpha.ru.ac.za (Geoff Rehmet)
Tested on: FreeBSD ?.?
programming:
------------
ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de(130.149.17.7):/pub/bsd/0.1-ports/languages/modula-2/mocka
Comment: Modula-2 compiler
Submitted by: hopp@ira.uka.de (Holger) &
wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schneider)
Tested on: FreeBSD 1.1 (current), static linked
utils:
------
oz.plymouth.edu(158.136.75.100):pub/psc/PSCmenu2.4a.tar.Z
Comment: Menu software
Submitted by: ted@oz.plymouth.edu (The Wizard of Oz)
Tested on: ???
x11:
----
sunsite.unc.edu(152.2.22.81):/pub/Linux/X11/window-managers/fvwm-1.21c-source.tar.gz
Comment: Virtual window manager
Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah)
Tested on: FreeBSD ?.?
ftp.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/Xaw3d
Comment: ???
Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah)
Tested on: ???
ftp.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/tetris.3.1.1.tar.Z
Comment: Tetris game for X11
Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah)
Tested on: FreeBSD ?.?
gatekeeper.dec.com(16.1.0.2):/.b/published/oreilly/xresource/issue8/xfig.2.1.8.tar.Z
Comment: Utility to generate pictures for LaTeX
Submitted by: Andras Olah <olah@cs.utwente.nl>
Tested on: FreeBSD ?.?
public.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/xkeycaps-2.11.tar.Z
Comment: Graphical interface to xmodmap
Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah)
Tested on: FreeBSD ?.?
ftp.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/xpm-3.3.tar.gz
Comment: XPixmap library & utils
Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah)
Tested on: FreeBSD ?.?
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III. Commercial software for FreeBSD & NetBSD
Product: Motif 1.2.3 Runtime & Development
Company: Sequoia International, Inc.
Comment: Full runtime/development
Tel/Fax: (305) 783-4915 / (305)783-4935
Email: info@seq.com
Submitted by: hanh@seq.com (Hanh Vu)
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Der König sagte zum Priester: Halte Du sie dumm, ich halte sie arm !
The King said to the Priest: You keep them stupid, I'll keep them poor !
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Udo Wolter, email: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de & uwp@hydmech.fb12.tu-berlin.de, www: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de:/~uwp/