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From: nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: How UTTERLY Amazing! (Was Re: FreeBSD vs NetBSD)
Date: 15 Oct 1994 18:31:51 GMT
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  Montana
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In article <jmonroyCxp4Fp.JKH@netcom.com>,
Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote:
>Nate Williams (nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu) wrote:
>: In article <jmonroyCxG197.MqI@netcom.com>,
>: Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote:
>: >	I understand that Freebsd plans to use the 
>: >	4.4 release as it's base. 
>: >	Don't you feel this will limit the potential of FreeBSD
>: >	as a development enviroment?
>
>: Quite the contrary.  I believe many of the advanced features of 4.4 will
>: encourage FreeBSD development.
>:
>	I can agree that the new features of 4.4 will be
>	of advantage and use to many developers, but I also
>	beleive that the code (as is traditional Berkely style)
>	is too interwoven.

With?  The new 4.4 filesystem code allows for building FS with a much
better API than before, the networking code is much better, the machine
independence of 4.4 is MUCH better than previous Berkeley releases
(which are in turn much better than any other software that I have
seen.)

Give me facts or examples to back up your assertion and we can talk, but
until then you have nothing to say.  The biggest problem that the BSD
4.4 has it the VM system, and it's not too shabby as it sits, though it
needs a little bit of re-write to make it work more effectively.

>: If 'application resources' were the only criteria for running an
>: operating system, we'd all be running DOS, since the application
>: developement tools in DOS still blow away most of the development tools
>: on all other operating systems.  This is changing, but application
>: development isn't the only thing out there.  If your OS can't run your
>: applications due to inherent limitations, then you need a different
>: OS.
>;
>	Correction... DOS is the predominant OS for development.
>	BSD and other OSs are only still afloat because of relegious
>	loyalties and blantent bigotry....

Let's see you write a server under DOS w/out having to go through
contortions.  Again, you have absolutely no facts to back up your
statements, as Unix and other systems are gaining market share in
comparison to DOS.

When you have something to say other than biased opinions based on
non-existant facts, come back and we can have a real discussion.


Nate
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