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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.indirect.com!wes From: wes@indirect.com (Barnacle Wes) Subject: Re: How UTTERLY Amazing! (Was Re: FreeBSD vs NetBSD) Message-ID: <CyD1C8.AFo@indirect.com> Sender: usenet@indirect.com (System Operator) Organization: Internet Direct, indirect.com Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 01:55:19 GMT References: <358o3g$p95@umd5.umd.edu> <BLYMN.94Oct19193600@mallee.awadi.com.au> <38h8d5$e19@CSOS.ORST.EDU> <38hk8s$dn2@orion.cc.andrews.edu> <38k228$ksm@henri.mindspring.com> <38kvfu$b1f@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Lines: 27 Rafal Boni (rkb55989@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : If I didn't find the EMACS keybindings so g*d*** confusing, I'd give : up VI in a minute for all those nifty things like compiling and : having errors show up right in the editor window. Anyone have a VI : mode for EMACS? Jeez, this is one that emacs-lovers hate to hear. If you don't like it, change it! It's *customizable*! And yes, if you wish to do that to yourself, GNU emacs-19 has a vi-mode. Note that on *my* emacs, that awful sequence for 'compile this program in a window and let me get on with my editing' is the thoroughly confusing and difficult to remember F1 key. Press F2 to debug. Press F5 to read mail. Oops, sorry, thought I was a voice-mail system there for a minute! : [Note: I started out hacking on a DOS box and got way too attached to : Brief.... If only I could beat some sense out of Crisp, I'd give up : BOTH VI and EMACS and use that... Unfortunately, I've had a hell of a : time building crisp in more than one environment, and I've yet to see : the X interface work.... ] I've got bad news for you, then. If you were using Brief, you *were* using Emacs! Wes Peters