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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!agate!agate!phr From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Restrictions on free UNIX / 386BSD (Re: selling 386BSD) Date: 17 Aug 92 11:20:28 Organization: CSUA/UCB Lines: 24 Message-ID: <PHR.92Aug17112028@soda.berkeley.edu> References: <PHR.92Aug15151100@soda.berkeley.edu> <63DILTJ@taronga.com> <PHR.92Aug15214245@soda.berkeley.edu> <YSDIBS4@taronga.com> <9208162341.30@rmkhome.UUCP> NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP's message of 17 Aug 92 04:41:28 GMT >... Next, Sun (In Solaris 2), and I believe MIPS ship GCC with >their products, in some cases as the primary compilers. This >sort of distribution is not practical for an operating system. And from reading comp.unix.solaris, I get the idea that a number of development shops will buy compilers for Solaris 2.0 because of the GNU Copyleft. The copyleft does not prevent development shops from using GCC. If they think it does, they haven't been paying attention, or they are letting their decisions be controlled by paranoid knee-jerk reactions instead of by intelligence. I'm sure this makes Sun happy; there's one born every minute, as the saying goes. I don't see this as a reason to let Sun and others make proprietary GCC's. I can't see any benefit of a non-copyleft GCC that could outweigh sacrificing the hundreds of improvements, ports, etc. that people have been allowed to contribute because the marketroids they work for weren't permitted to grab the improvements for themselves. We saw the same situation with Unix, but it didn't work out so well. Dozens of companies made proprietary improvements and fixes, so you had your choice of N incompatible Unixes, each with a different subset of the original bugs fixed. One of the hopes of the GNU OS and its copyleft is to prevent this from happening again.