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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux.development:19440 comp.os.linux.misc:29863 comp.os.386bsd.questions:14491 comp.os.386bsd.misc:4105 sci.electronics:84235 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!news.adelaide.edu.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!news.tpa.com.au!myall.awadi.com.au!myall!blymn From: blymn@awadi.com.au (Brett Lymn) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc,sci.electronics Subject: Re: 16550 detection Date: 15 Nov 1994 10:07:19 GMT Organization: AWA Defence Industries Lines: 38 Message-ID: <BLYMN.94Nov15203720@mallee.awadi.com.au> References: <jonkCyo2Au.239@netcom.com> <Cyp2ws.MIq@bonkers.taronga.com> <jonkCypCzF.Jrq@netcom.com> <CywsH9.K05@zoo.toronto.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mallee.awadi.com.au In-reply-to: henry@zoo.toronto.edu's message of Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:55:56 GMT >>>>> "Henry" == Henry Spencer <henry@zoo.toronto.edu> writes: In article <CywsH9.K05@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: Henry> In article <jonkCypCzF.Jrq@netcom.com> jonk@netcom.com Henry> (Jonathan Dale Kirwan) writes: >> : Finally, external modems make great external fuses for minor >> power surges : over the phone line. I'd rather not have that >> plugged into my bus. >> >> In the US, at least, phone lines theoretically have to have >> adequate arresters before the line enters the house or >> building... Henry> Arresters -- to the extent that they protect your side of Henry> things at all, as opposed to protecting the phone company's Henry> hardware -- are directed at preventing fires, not damage to Henry> electronics. That's a whole different order of magnitude, Henry> offering no useful protection for your modems. WARNING WARNING: Eye glaze material ahead! Actually a lot of telecom companies do not like putting suppression devices on their lines because it *can* make things worse. During something like a lightning strike your wires sorta cease acting in a nice predictable manner and start being more like waveguides. If you put and impedance transition in the wrong place then you can get the lightning impulse bouncing with a phase reversal which *doubles* the voltage seen (the impulse is sorta the same as putting a pulse down a bit of string, the effect at the other end depends on whether the string end is fixed or free to move). It sounds crazy, it is crazy but when you are talking lightning with huge volts/amps trusty ole 'tricery all the "normal" rules go out the window. Brett"An electrical eng in a very strange job"Lymn -- Brett Lymn