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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!mips!mips!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!sugar!taronga!peter From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Restrictions on 'free' UNIX / 386BSD (Re: selling 386BSD) Message-ID: <GTFIR8A@taronga.com> Date: 18 Aug 92 13:02:28 GMT References: <PHR.92Aug16224207@soda.berkeley.edu> <WLEIPPE@taronga.com> <PHR.92Aug17110648@soda.berkeley.edu> Organization: Taronga Park BBS Lines: 43 In article <PHR.92Aug17110648@soda.berkeley.edu> phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin) writes: > >[subsidised "free"] distribution is not practical for an operating system. > >Why is it practical for compilers and not OS's? > Because the compiler distribution is subsidised by the OS distribution. If > the OS itself has no protection against unsupported copying, what is there > to subsidise it? >Hardware distribution. But the hardware manufacturers aren't the ones selling the operating system. > And for clonable machines (Sparc, MIPS, x86) the O/S has to be a > profit center in its own right. >The x86 proves this is totally wrong. Nearly all x86 vendors just >ship ms-dog on their machines with almost no profit And they pay Microsoft to do so. The operating system is a profit center *for Microsoft* in its own right. And while it's a screaming horror from the sewers of hell, it *does* run out of the box without any diddling, and has a zillion applications for it. >Conversely, if not enough people want the support, >the support must not be so important, and then there's not much excuse >for a proprietary OS. There's support and there's support. Cygnus isn't selling to Joe Blow who wants a computer to do accounts receivable for his auto parts business. THAT's the market **ix needs to survive, let alone prosper, past the next few years. And *that's* why I don't want to see 386BSD knocked out of the conventional commercial distribution system. I'm not talking about esoteric like SunOS or Motif (both nightmares to support, even compared with System V which isn't exactly something I'd wish on Joe Blow), I'm talking about load-and-go systems like DOS and Windows and load-and-go applications like Locust 1-2-3 or Weird Perfect. -- `-_-' Have you hugged your wolf today? 'U` Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX +1 713 568 0480/1032