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Xref: sserve comp.os.os2.programmer.misc:14841 comp.os.linux.development:19708 comp.os.minix:24337 comp.os.mach:4281 comp.unix.bsd:15349 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7485 comp.os.386bsd.development:2709 comp.unix.bsd:15350 comp.os.386bsd.bugs:2638 comp.os.386bsd.apps:1494 comp.os.386bsd.questions:14592 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!te134a.cce.iastate.edu!marcus From: marcus@ccelab.iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.minix,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.bugs,comp.os.386bsd.apps,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.mi Subject: Re: ADVICE to ALL Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 04:22:52 Organization: CCE Microcomputer Labs, Iowa State University Lines: 62 Message-ID: <marcus.5.000461BF@ccelab.iastate.edu> References: <jmonroyCz8tEw.A7C@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: te134a.cce.iastate.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <jmonroyCz8tEw.A7C@netcom.com> jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes: >From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) >Subject: ADVICE to ALL >Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 05:47:20 GMT >Why am I making this post? > I am making this post in an effort to move ahead with the work > at hand -- but sure as not, this article will be followed a long > trail of flames, insults and innuendos. How is saying (essentially) "All of the BSD derivatives suck! Don't use them!" help move the work ahead? >What to watch for? > Claims will be made that each version is stable, great and will > definitely run on your system. That statement, that "all will work > fine" is plainly a lie and this new chapter in the UNIX saga will > only become known as "Round Two of OS de-jour". So far, I've seen several posts saying that the new 4.4-Lite versions are out in testing phases. The whole point of Alpha, Beta, etc., testing is to find the bugs so that they can be removed (or is that concept lost on you? Also, I think you will find this wherever you go. People think that what they use is the best thing around, because if it weren't good most intelligent people wouldn't use it. >My conjecture. > They're on the run, they don't have a clue as to how to write > decent code and the predictions I've made in the past about the > quiet developer may come full circle. If they don't have a clue how to write good code, then why is there such demand for the software that it has hung around this long? >My recommendation. > If you must install a UNIX-like system TODAY, try LINUX, Minix or OS/2. > Otherwise, please wait for the "shakeout", not all parties > will last in this round. OS/2 is not a unix-like operating system. AIX is the IBM UNIX OS. Besides, I think the various developement teams have done a great job. I find it kind of silly to say that any software that you pay nothing for is not worth what you paid :) I admit, I tend to only pay attention to FreeBSD (Hey...you follow what you use :) but I think it's quite a testament to their work that their FTP site is a FreeBSD machine...it can't be all that bad to support 300 users :) *pats FreeBSD team on the back* > This notice will be re-posted and modified as is appropriate. > Thanks for all your help. > >-- >Jesus Monroy Jr jmonroy@netcom.com >Zebra Research >/386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation >___________________________________________________________________________ Marcus I. Ryan, Asst System Admin., CCE MicroComputer Labs, Iowa State Univ. "A wise man talks little, speaks softly, and says much. A fool talks much, speaks loudly, and says little" -- Me :)