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Date: 22 Nov 1994 02:47:00 +0100
From: maulwurf@subloch.ruessel.sub.org (Stefan Huerter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions
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Subject: which PC - platform, hints to decide for the right system
Keywords: unix,platform,performance
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I get a lot of hints from you, thx a lot.
A few persons are interested in my decisions, too. So I will try to give  
you some hints, I hope these can help you for your upgrades, new platforms  
or s.th. else.

any comments, suggestions or s.th. else, please to following email- 
address:
stefan_huerter@lu.maus.de
for international mail.

At first analyze, what you want with your unix pc.
- networking
- databases
- programming

or s.th. else.
important is, to know, what you need. do you need fast processors,  
important for programming, networking, fast IO and bus transfers are  
important; to give you a few examples.
(please recognize: that is not absolutely! programming has high IO, too..)

to the components:
CPU: "Intel"-based systems only.
386-DX: good choice, ideal for the little hobby-user, prefer the 40MHz
        version, try to get it, good price/power choice.
486-DX: "normal", if you want to call it so. pros are: included fpu,
        internal cache, normally more 2nd level cache than a 386-mother-
        board (up to 256kB, 386-normal 64kB).
586-DX: high range CPU. included a few features, not supported for a long
        time. Since there is the new gcc available, useful for high power.
RAM   : generally you can say: I can't have enough. Prefer for normal
        unix working 8MB, if you want X, take 16MB or more.
IO    : HardDisks:  SCSI is the best choice. Take one with a high rpm and
                    a lot of sectors a track. At the moment, I recommand
                    in the mid price for 1GB the IBM 0662 "Spitfire" or
                    the Quantum Empire 1080S. If you want any bigger,
                    the Seagate Barracuda or the 2 GB from DEC will be
                    a good choice.
                    If you want to use the system as a server, get big
                    disks, they can't be big enough. splitting in
                    partitions only, if there will be a lot of little
                    files.
        Controller: Adaptec is s.th. like a standard. There is one
                    problem: the most Adaptecs available has bus-master
                    DMA, which is limiting your System to "real" 16MB RAM.
                    Some you can deactivate it.
                    BusLogic is the better choice... but expensive.
                    The best choice i the NCR controller, onBoard of the
                    PCI boards or as a PCI card. Important to take only
                    SCSI and no other components.
        serial:     there are a lot of serial cards available, important
                    to use the cards equipped with FIFO (16550). Doesn't
                    matter if 2 or 4 serial ports.
        display:    for a Server or BBS textmode only is enough. For X
                    the S3 cards have a good support. Get a big monitor,
                    if you want or to have work several hours on a little
                    14 or 15" monitor, terrible. 19" or 21" is the best.
        network:    NE2000 compatible are supported, no problem, if you
                    want to install a bigger net, take the 3COM, they are
                    the fastest one.
Boards: ISA:  old, slowly on the bus. cheap components, problems with
              the addresses and IRQs are programmed. (Bus transfer rates
              expecting about 2 MB/s)
        VLB:  higher transfers, but not really optimized now. Good choice
              for graphics, cheaper than PCI, but not faster. don't
              speaking about the future.
        EISA: old, but good. not the same limitations as the ISA, but
              some problems, too. I give them no future...
        PCI:  the newest technology available. Fastest. Best for high IO
              specially graphics and harddisks. onBoard MCR limited to
              10MB/s (I know no harddisks, which reach this transfer
              rates).

special:
known problems of the the AMD CPUs with the PCI-boards.

example:
my future station have to do:
- running Quark II (a BBS mailbox System with integrated converter from/to
                    usenet).
- running news and mail system for ISDN and 1 or to modems, spooling
  s.th. about 20MB/day in 4 calls for a few sites.
- networking service nfs and Appletalk, printer spooling
  (service for 3 clients)
- running xdm

I decided to get a PCI (best IO, most performance fpr spooling and  
networking), equipped with a 486DX2-66 (enough power to compile the BBS  
and some stuff more), 16MB Ram (perhaps in a few months 32MB). display  
will be only a VT320 terminal. 4-serial card (all FIFO). Quantum Empire  
good for IO.


Bye
     Stefan

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