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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!convex!convex!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!xlink.net!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!darum.uni-mannheim.de!mips.ruessel.sub.org!subloch.ruessel.sub.org!maulwurf Date: 22 Nov 1994 02:47:00 +0100 From: maulwurf@subloch.ruessel.sub.org (Stefan Huerter) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Message-ID: <5aL3zqezoRB@subloch.ruessel.sub.org> References: <5_YN-sXUoRB@subloch.ruessel.sub.org> Subject: which PC - platform, hints to decide for the right system Keywords: unix,platform,performance X-Newsreader: XP v3.02 R/C2188 X-Charset: ISO-8859-1 Organization: the only answer: 42 Reply-To: stefan_huerter@lu.maus.de Lines: 101 I get a lot of hints from you, thx a lot. A few persons are interested in my decisions, too. So I will try to give you some hints, I hope these can help you for your upgrades, new platforms or s.th. else. any comments, suggestions or s.th. else, please to following email- address: stefan_huerter@lu.maus.de for international mail. At first analyze, what you want with your unix pc. - networking - databases - programming or s.th. else. important is, to know, what you need. do you need fast processors, important for programming, networking, fast IO and bus transfers are important; to give you a few examples. (please recognize: that is not absolutely! programming has high IO, too..) to the components: CPU: "Intel"-based systems only. 386-DX: good choice, ideal for the little hobby-user, prefer the 40MHz version, try to get it, good price/power choice. 486-DX: "normal", if you want to call it so. pros are: included fpu, internal cache, normally more 2nd level cache than a 386-mother- board (up to 256kB, 386-normal 64kB). 586-DX: high range CPU. included a few features, not supported for a long time. Since there is the new gcc available, useful for high power. RAM : generally you can say: I can't have enough. Prefer for normal unix working 8MB, if you want X, take 16MB or more. IO : HardDisks: SCSI is the best choice. Take one with a high rpm and a lot of sectors a track. At the moment, I recommand in the mid price for 1GB the IBM 0662 "Spitfire" or the Quantum Empire 1080S. If you want any bigger, the Seagate Barracuda or the 2 GB from DEC will be a good choice. If you want to use the system as a server, get big disks, they can't be big enough. splitting in partitions only, if there will be a lot of little files. Controller: Adaptec is s.th. like a standard. There is one problem: the most Adaptecs available has bus-master DMA, which is limiting your System to "real" 16MB RAM. Some you can deactivate it. BusLogic is the better choice... but expensive. The best choice i the NCR controller, onBoard of the PCI boards or as a PCI card. Important to take only SCSI and no other components. serial: there are a lot of serial cards available, important to use the cards equipped with FIFO (16550). Doesn't matter if 2 or 4 serial ports. display: for a Server or BBS textmode only is enough. For X the S3 cards have a good support. Get a big monitor, if you want or to have work several hours on a little 14 or 15" monitor, terrible. 19" or 21" is the best. network: NE2000 compatible are supported, no problem, if you want to install a bigger net, take the 3COM, they are the fastest one. Boards: ISA: old, slowly on the bus. cheap components, problems with the addresses and IRQs are programmed. (Bus transfer rates expecting about 2 MB/s) VLB: higher transfers, but not really optimized now. Good choice for graphics, cheaper than PCI, but not faster. don't speaking about the future. EISA: old, but good. not the same limitations as the ISA, but some problems, too. I give them no future... PCI: the newest technology available. Fastest. Best for high IO specially graphics and harddisks. onBoard MCR limited to 10MB/s (I know no harddisks, which reach this transfer rates). special: known problems of the the AMD CPUs with the PCI-boards. example: my future station have to do: - running Quark II (a BBS mailbox System with integrated converter from/to usenet). - running news and mail system for ISDN and 1 or to modems, spooling s.th. about 20MB/day in 4 calls for a few sites. - networking service nfs and Appletalk, printer spooling (service for 3 clients) - running xdm I decided to get a PCI (best IO, most performance fpr spooling and networking), equipped with a 486DX2-66 (enough power to compile the BBS and some stuff more), 16MB Ram (perhaps in a few months 32MB). display will be only a VT320 terminal. 4-serial card (all FIFO). Quantum Empire good for IO. Bye Stefan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- |PMail not more than 16kB to Stefan_Huerter@lu.maus.de| |PMail over 16kB to maulwurf@subloch.ruessel.sub.org| -----------------------------------------------------------------------