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Xref: sserve news.announce.newgroups:5418 news.groups:110192 comp.unix.bsd:15358 comp.os.386bsd.announce:519 comp.os.386bsd.apps:1503 comp.os.386bsd.bugs:2644 comp.os.386bsd.development:2713 comp.os.386bsd.misc:4193 comp.os.386bsd.questions:14627 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!uwm.edu!news.moneng.mei.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uunet!bounce-back From: Kaleb Keithley <kaleb@x.org> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.announce,comp.os.386bsd.apps,comp.os.386bsd.bugs,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 23 Nov 1994 15:10:48 -0500 Organization: x.org Lines: 145 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net, 386bsd-announce-request@agate.berkeley.edu Message-ID: <3b07k8$3ng@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net SUMMARY: Create fourth levels in comp.unix.bsd: c.u.b.{386bsd,bsdi,freebsd,netbsd} Create topic groups: comp.unix.bsd.* After a transition period: delete comp.os.386bsd NEW GROUPS: The proposal is to create nine new groups. They are: comp.unix.bsd.misc comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.announce comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.announce comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce -- moderated by Jordan Hubbard comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce -- moderated by Chris Demetriou *.386bsd.announce and *.bsdi.announce groups need moderators. In the event that no volunteers step forward during the RFD the announce groups will be withdrawn from the RFD and CFV. Jordan Hubbard -- jkh@freefall.cdrom.com Chris Demetriou -- cgd@alpha.bostic.com or cgd@agate.berkeley.edu RATIONALE: There are now at least four independent variations of operating systems derived from UC Berkeley's BSD Net2 and/or 4.4lite UNIX source distributions. Currently discussion of these four fall into either comp.unix.bsd or one of the comp.os.386bsd groups. c.o.386bsd.* was originally intended for discussion about Bill and Lynn Jolitz' particular derivative, known as 386BSD. Over the past two years two splinter groups have spun off variations of 386BSD known as FreeBSD and NetBSD; and BSDI, Inc. has a commercial offering known as BSD/OS, formerly known as BSD/386. Discussion specific to 386BSD has tapered off to near nil as the original authors have apparently ceased to support it. Most traffic in the existing comp.os.386bsd groups centers around either FreeBSD or NetBSD and occasionally BSDI's BSD/OS. It seems that the BSD user community might be better served by having groups specifically related to the variation that they are using. Despite their common ancestry, the differences between the goals and feature sets are quite wide, and it is often confusing to differentiate between them when discussion is all lumped into the same group. Furthermore, NetBSD has, and FreeBSD will soon have, support for other architectures, so grouping them in a hierarchy whose name suggests that it is devoted to the Intel x86 family is definitely inappropriate. While comp.os.386bsd currently has several groups in its hierarchy, the current level of 386BSD specific traffic in them doesn't seem to warrant replicating those groups under this proposal. Additional groups can be added in the future as needs dictate. CHARTERS: comp.unix.bsd.misc: This newsgroup is for discussion of any topic relating to any two (or more) of the following derivatives of BSD UNIX: 386bsd, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or BSD/OS; or for any other derivative of BSD UNIX not covered by one of the above, e.g. 4.2, 4.3 Tahoe, 4.3 Reno, etc. comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.announce: This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the 386bsd operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group would include announcements of new versions of 386bsd, announcements of major software releases (both commercial and freely redistributable) for 386bsd (e.g. new version of X11 for 386bsd), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like. FAQs relating to 386bsd should also be cross-posted to this group. comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc: Discussion about 386bsd which does not fall into the area of coverage of any of the other 386bsd groups. Things posted here should not be crossposted to the other 386bsd groups. comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.announce: This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the BSD/OS operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group would include announcements of new versions of BSD/OS, announcements of major software releases (both commercial and freely redistributable) for BSD/OS (e.g. new version of X11 for BSD/OS), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like. FAQs relating to BSD/OS should also be cross-posted to this group. comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc: Discussion about BSD/OS which does not fall into the area of coverage of any of the other bsdi groups. Things posted here should not be crossposted to the other bsdi groups. comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce: This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the FreeBSD operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group would include announcements of new versions of FreeBSD, announcements of major software releases (both commercial and freely redistributable) for FreeBSD (e.g. new version of X11 for FreeBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like. FAQs relating to FreeBSD should also be cross-posted to this group. comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc: Discussion about FreeBSD which does not fall into the area of coverage of any of the other freebsd groups. Things posted here should not be crossposted to the other freebsd groups. comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce: This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the NetBSD operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group would include announcements of new versions of NetBSD, announcements of major software releases (both commercial and freely redistributable) for NetBSD (e.g. new version of X11 for NetBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like. FAQs relating to NetBSD should also be cross-posted to this group. comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc: Discussion about NetBSD which does not fall into the area of coverage of any of the other netbsd groups. Things posted here should not be crossposted to the other netbsd groups. LENGTH OF DISCUSSION AND CALL FOR VOTES: The discussion period will last a minimum of 20 days. At the present time I do not forsee issuing the Call For Votes until January 2nd, 1995.