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From: Kaleb Keithley <kaleb@x.org>
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Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd reorganization
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Date: 23 Nov 1994 15:10:48 -0500
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SUMMARY:

    Create fourth levels in comp.unix.bsd: c.u.b.{386bsd,bsdi,freebsd,netbsd}
    Create topic groups:                   comp.unix.bsd.*
    After a transition period:             delete comp.os.386bsd


NEW GROUPS:

    The proposal is to create nine new groups. They are:

    comp.unix.bsd.misc
    comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc
    comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.announce
    comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc
    comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.announce
    comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
    comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce -- moderated by Jordan Hubbard
    comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
    comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce  -- moderated by Chris Demetriou

    *.386bsd.announce and *.bsdi.announce groups need moderators. In the 
    event that no volunteers step forward during the RFD the announce 
    groups will be withdrawn from the RFD and CFV.

    Jordan Hubbard -- jkh@freefall.cdrom.com
    Chris Demetriou -- cgd@alpha.bostic.com or cgd@agate.berkeley.edu


RATIONALE:

    There are now at least four independent variations of operating 
    systems derived from UC Berkeley's BSD Net2 and/or 4.4lite UNIX source 
    distributions. Currently discussion of these four fall into either 
    comp.unix.bsd or one of the comp.os.386bsd groups. c.o.386bsd.* was 
    originally intended for discussion about Bill and Lynn Jolitz' 
    particular derivative, known as 386BSD. Over the past two years two 
    splinter groups have spun off variations of 386BSD known as FreeBSD
    and NetBSD; and BSDI, Inc. has a commercial offering known as BSD/OS, 
    formerly known as BSD/386. 

    Discussion specific to 386BSD has tapered off to near nil as the 
    original authors have apparently ceased to support it. Most traffic 
    in the existing comp.os.386bsd groups centers around either FreeBSD 
    or NetBSD and occasionally BSDI's BSD/OS.

    It seems that the BSD user community might be better served by having 
    groups specifically related to the variation that they are using. 
    Despite their common ancestry, the differences between the goals and 
    feature sets are quite wide, and it is often confusing to differentiate 
    between them when discussion is all lumped into the same group. 
    Furthermore, NetBSD has, and FreeBSD will soon have, support for other 
    architectures, so grouping them in a hierarchy whose name suggests 
    that it is devoted to the Intel x86 family is definitely inappropriate.

    While comp.os.386bsd currently has several groups in its hierarchy, the
    current level of 386BSD specific traffic in them doesn't seem to warrant 
    replicating those groups under this proposal. Additional groups can be
    added in the future as needs dictate.


CHARTERS:

    comp.unix.bsd.misc:

        This newsgroup is for discussion of any topic relating to any
        two (or more) of the following derivatives of BSD UNIX: 386bsd, 
        FreeBSD, NetBSD, or BSD/OS; or for any other derivative of
        BSD UNIX not covered by one of the above, e.g. 4.2, 4.3 Tahoe,
        4.3 Reno, etc.

    comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.announce:

        This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the 386bsd 
        operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group
        would include announcements of new versions of 386bsd,
        announcements of major software releases (both commercial and
        freely redistributable) for 386bsd (e.g. new version of X11 
        for 386bsd), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the 
        like.  FAQs relating to 386bsd should also be cross-posted to 
        this group.

    comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:

        Discussion about 386bsd which does not fall into the area
        of coverage of any of the other 386bsd groups.  Things
        posted here should not be crossposted to the other 386bsd
        groups.

    comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.announce:

        This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the BSD/OS
        operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group
        would include announcements of new versions of BSD/OS,
        announcements of major software releases (both commercial
        and freely redistributable) for BSD/OS (e.g. new version of 
        X11 for BSD/OS), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and 
        the like.  FAQs relating to BSD/OS should also be cross-posted 
        to this group.

    comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:

        Discussion about BSD/OS which does not fall into the area
        of coverage of any of the other bsdi groups.  Things posted 
        here should not be crossposted to the other bsdi groups.

    comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce:

        This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the FreeBSD
        operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group
        would include announcements of new versions of FreeBSD,
        announcements of major software releases (both commercial
        and freely redistributable) for FreeBSD (e.g. new version of 
        X11 for FreeBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and 
        the like.  FAQs relating to FreeBSD should also be cross-posted 
        to this group.

    comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:

        Discussion about FreeBSD which does not fall into the area
        of coverage of any of the other freebsd groups.  Things posted 
        here should not be crossposted to the other freebsd groups.

    comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce:

        This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the NetBSD
        operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group
        would include announcements of new versions of NetBSD,
        announcements of major software releases (both commercial and
        freely redistributable) for NetBSD (e.g. new version of X11 for 
        NetBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like.  
        FAQs relating to NetBSD should also be cross-posted to this group.

    comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:

        Discussion about NetBSD which does not fall into the area
        of coverage of any of the other netbsd groups.  Things posted 
        here should not be crossposted to the other netbsd groups.


LENGTH OF DISCUSSION AND CALL FOR VOTES:

    The discussion period will last a minimum of 20 days. At the present
    time I do not forsee issuing the Call For Votes until January 2nd,
    1995.