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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!mips!mips!sdd.hp.com!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!park.uvcc.edu!ns.novell.com!gateway.novell.com!ithaca.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM!terry From: terry@ithaca.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) Subject: Re: Motif on X386??? Message-ID: <1992Aug18.175520.5936@gateway.novell.com> Sender: news@gateway.novell.com (NetNews) Nntp-Posting-Host: ithaca.eng.sandy.novell.com Organization: Novell NPD -- Sandy, UT References: <1992Aug17.140857.3882@lgc.com> <1992Aug17.223909.14604@athena.mit.edu> <1992Aug18.104511.12373@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:55:20 GMT Lines: 50 In article <1992Aug18.104511.12373@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Volker A. Brandt ) writes: >In article <1992Aug17.223909.14604@athena.mit.edu> bri@pegasus.mit.edu (Brian D. Carlstrom) writes: >>What is the deal with site licenses and motif. i know mit has a bin/lib/src >>license to cover everyone on campus. does this mean you can give it to me? >[...] >>what's the legal bit on this... > >I would also be interested in an answer to this question. Our university >computer center will not ever get a Motif license. [They can't even get a >BSD license even though they *have* an AT&T license -- bah!] > >Is there any chance of a binary distribution? I wouldn't mind paying a >reasonable amount for Motif binaries, but the licensing fees that were >recently mentioned in comp.windows.x.motif were outrageous. Binary distributions are allowed if your license allows it. The expectation is that you will charge for them, although there is no requirement to do so. There are several flavors of license: o Source license and site use of binaries o Source license and site use of full developement kit o Source license and distribution of binaries o Source license and distribution of full developement kit The major problem is the distribution of the libraries in binaries. This can be worked around with shared libraries, but these aren't supported on 386BSD (yet); so currently, there is no workaround. What you want is someone who paid for the most expensive license to give away compiled code, headers, and library files without charge. I would say this would qualify as a package, as opposed to something which might be reasonably expected to become part of a full source istribution (like OLIT/olwm). It also qualifies as a "product" in a lot of companies minds, so you may not be able to get someone to give this to you. I suggest sending the $1000.00 off to OSF if you need this for other than personal use reasons. For a similar toolkit, someone may wish to contact John Bradley (email at bradley@cis.upenn.edu), the author of 'xv'. He has explicitly disallowed a great deal of use of the toolkit, so this may not be suitable except for personal use. Terry Lambert terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com terry@icarus.weber.edu --- Disclaimer: Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.