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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!sashimi.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: joeg@wwa.com (Josef Grosch) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.announce Subject: Semimonthly Software list for *BSD Supersedes: <941201084221-joeg@wwa.com-bsd.ann> Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Date: 1 Dec 1994 08:49:34 -0600 Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicagoland Internet Services Lines: 1150 Sender: joeg@gagme.wwa.com Approved: 386bsd-announce@agate.berkeley.edu Expires: 12/22/94 Message-ID: <941201084932-joeg@wwa.com-bsd.ann> NNTP-Posting-Host: gagme.wwa.com Last Modified: $Date: 1994/12/01 14:46:19 $ GMT This is an announcement for *BSD users. It provides a software list for FreeBSD & NetBSD (and maybe other BSD systems ?). This list is divided into three sections and it will be posted 2 times a month (1st and 15th). This list only can be up to date when YOU, the *BSD community tell me about changes of the programs & ports. I won't (and can't) look everyday if there's something new or if there are any versions changed so you have to tell me ! I take no guarantee for the actuality of this list ! The first section shows a list of ported software & binary packages which can be obtained from freebsd.cdrom.com. It's a list of FreeBSD software and some of these programs maybe won't run under NetBSD (someone told me) so can anyone from the NetBSD-Front send me such a list for the NetBSD people ? If something's changed please don't hesitate to mail me and tell me what has been changed ! Our links to the US are very bad, so I can't check if packages have been deleted/updated/added ! The second section is a software list from other UNIX communities (e.g. Linux and others) which can be ported very easily so there's no need for a real port and we can save disk space. It's also the place for miscellanous stuff like binary packages & other things on different places. That means you, the *BSD community, have to check which programs and sources can be installed without any problems so that they don't need to be added to the packages directories. If you find any useful software which doesn't appear in this list, please send me a mail with the following form: Subject: Software list for *BSD category:server(inetnum):path/program:description [changes] E.g. category is communication or diskutils etc., server and inetnum is the address of the FTP-server, path/program is the path and the name of the program where to find this application, description could be some short statements and optional minimal changes (inetnum is also optional). By the way: please add a comment on which system you tested the software (FreeBSD or NetBSD & Version)! The third section is a commercial software list. If you want to provide Software for the commercial section please send me a mail with the following form: Subject: Software list for *BSD (commercial) productname:company:Tel/Fax:address:description [email/ftp] The entry email/ftp is optional if the company offers information via mail- or ftp-server. We won't list prices here unless I will get dozens of mails from users who are begging for a price list or a company will send me millions of dollars. :-) I think if you ask at these companies, they will give you the price for their product so we don't have to mention it in this list. If you would like to change something or if you have any suggestions/proposals (perhaps you don't understand my bad english ?) so feel free to write me at joeg@wwa.com Your comments are welcome ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I. Packages & ported software for FreeBSD (& maybe NetBSD ?) You can find these ported programs (sources) as subtree at: freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports Subdirectory audio: ------------------ netaudio Version: ??? Comment: Network Audio System snd-util Version: 1.0 Comment: Miscellaneous Sound Driver Utilities Subdirectory comm: ------------------ flexfax Version: 2.2 BETA Comment: Fax Send/Receive Software kermit Version: 5A(189) Comment: Kermit Communications Package rzsz Version: 3.32.1 (3.36 - new) Comment: ZModem Communications Package seyon Version: ??? (2.14c) Comment: X windows Communications Package term Version: 1.07 Comment: Terminal-Multiplexing Utility Subdirectory db: ---------------- ingres Version: 8.9 Comment: UCB Ingres Database Subdirectory devel: ------------------- cflow Version: ??? Comment: Functional Call Hierarchy Tool dejagnu Version: 1.0 Comment: GNU Program Test Suite gdb Version: 4.11 Comment: GNU Debugger gic Version: 1.1 Comment: Graphical Interface to CVS gmake Version: 3.69 Comment: GNU Make Utility mprof Version: 3.0 Comment: Memory Profiler and Leak Detector Subdirectory editor: -------------------- aXe Version: 6.0 Comment: aXe editor emacs Version: 19.25 (19.26 - new) Comment: GNU Emacs point Version: ??? Comment: point - the Tk based screen editor uemacs Version: 3.12 Comment: Micro EMACS Editor vile Version: ??? Comment: vile - VI-Like emacs Subdirectory game: ------------------- golddig Version: 2 Comment: an X arcade game nethack Version: ??? Comment: Nethack game seahaven Version: none Comment: solitaire card game xboing Version: 1.8 Comment: breakout-line X game with sound xjewel Version: 1.6 Comment: tetris-like X game xmines Version: ??? Comment: Minesweeper game xpilot Version: 3.0 Comment: Multi User Shoot 'em up game xtrek Version: 6.1 Comment: Star Trek game Subdirectory lang: ------------------ bwbasic Version: 2.10 Comment: Bywater BASIC Interpreter/Shell f2c Version: ? Comment: Fortran-To-C Converter gcc1 Version: 1.39 Comment: GNU C Compiler gcc Version: 2.?? Comment: GNU C Compiler logo Version: 3.0.1 Comment: UCB LOGO language perl Version: 4.0 PL36 Comment: PERL Language sather Version: 0.5.3 Comment: Sather Compiler schemetoc Version: 15mar93 Comment: Scheme->C, a scheme compiler scm Version: 4d3 Comment: Scheme Interpreter sml Version: 0.93 Comment: Standard ML compiler tcl Version: 7.3 Comment: Tool Command Language tclX Version: ??? Comment: Extended TCL xlispstat Version: ??? Comment: xlispstat - a lisp based statistical plotting package (2D/3D) Subdirectory mail: ------------------ elm Version: 2.4 PL2 Comment: Elm Mail Reader mh Version: 6.8 Comment: Mail Software mush Version: 7.2.5 Comment: Mail User's Shell popper Version: 1.7 Comment: Post Office Protocol Subdirectory math: ------------------ blas Version: 1, 2 & 3 Comment: Linear Algebra Routines eispack Version: ??? Comment: Matrix Eigensystem Routines linpack Version: ??? Comment: Linear algebra package octave Version: 0.72 Comment: Numerical Problem-Solving Language Subdirectory net: ----------------- dgd Version: 1.0.a6 Comment: DGD (MUD server), with LPmud 2.4.5++ example simulation lib gopher Version: 2.0 PL6 Comment: INTERNET Information Browsing Tool lynx Version: ??? Comment: WWW client for use with non graphic terminals ncftp Version: ??? Comment: special ftp sup Version: ??? Comment: CMU network file updating protocol wu-ftpd Version: ??? Comment: Wuarchive FTP ytalk Version: 3.2 Comment: ytalk - requires XFree86 zircon Version: 1.15 Comment: Zircon, the Tk/DP based IRC client Subdirectory news: ------------------ cnews Version: 930220 Comment: USENET News Software C-News inn Version: 1.6 Comment: Internet News Software nntp Version: 1.5.11 Comment: Network News Transfer Protocol slurp Version: 1.08 Comment: Advanced Passive NNTP Client trn Version: 3.2 Comment: Threaded Newsreader tin Version: 1.2 Patch level 2 Comment: Threaded Newsreader Subdirectory print: ------------------- afm Version: ??? Comment: Adobe Font Metrics dvi2lj Version: ??? Comment: DVI to HP LaserJet Filter tex Version: 3.14t3 Comment: TeX Document Formatting Language texk Version: 3.1415 (C Version 6.1) Comment: TeX document formatting system texinfo Version: 3.0 Comment: GNU Texinfo Support Subdirectory shell: ------------------- bash Version: 1.13 Comment: GNU Bourne Again Shell ksh Version: 4.9 Comment: Korn Shell tcsh Version: 6.04 Comment: C-Shell w/Advanced Features zsh version: 2.3.1 Comment: ZSH shell Subdirectory util: ------------------ expect Version: 4 ALPHA Comment: I/O Processing / Parsing Tool ile Version: ??? Comment: ile - the Interactive Line Editor (for other programs) iozone Version: ??? Comment: Disk Benchmark Utility ispell Version 3.1 Comment: Interactive spelling checker less Version: 1.77 Comment: Text Pager md5 Version: none Comment: cryptographic checksums mtools Version: 2.0.7 Comment: MS-DOS File Xfer Tools pcvt Version: ??? Comment: Syscons & PCcons Replacement (Virtual Console Driver) pkg_install Version: 1.0 Comment: Package Installation Software readline Version: ??? Comment: GNU readline library sc Version: 6.21 Comment: Spreadsheet Calculator screen Version: 3.5.1 Comment: Multi-screen utility ss Version: 1.2 BETA Comment: Spreadsheet Calculator (sc) w/Changes syscons_xtra Version: 1.0 Comment: Extra Utilities for Syscons Driver tcx Version: 1.1 Comment: Transparently Compressed Executables top Version: 3.2 Comment: A System Monitoring Utility unshar Version: ??? Comment: SHarchive Unpacker wine Version: 940209 Comment: Microsoft Windows Support zcrypt Version: ? Comment: Poor-man's Crypt Subdirectory util/archiver: --------------------------- lha Version: 1.01u Comment: LHa Archive Utility unarj Version: 2.41 Comment: ARJ Archive Utility unzip Version: 5.1D/1.04/2.1 Comment: ZIP Archive Utilities zoo Version: 2.1 Comment: Zoo Archive Utilities zip Version: 1.9 PL1/5.0 PL1 Comment: Zip/Unzip Archiving Utils Subdirectory x11: ----------------- blt Version: 1.5 Comment: Extension toolkit for TK ghostscript Version: 2.61 PL4 Comment: GNU Postscript Interpreter ghostview Version: 1.5 Comment: Ghostscript Companion Previewer ezd Version: 15mar93 Comment: easy drawing for X programs fvwm Version: 1.21zf Comment: fvwm window manager - requires XPM iv Version: 3.1 Comment: InterViews from Stanford University and Silicon Graphics jpeg Version: 4A Comment: JPEG Photo Compression Package pbmplus Version: 911210 Comment: Portable Bitmap Package piewm Version: ??? Comment: Modified tvtwm with pie menus rxvt Version: ??? Comment: xterm replacement tiff Version: 3.21 Comment: The TIFF image library tk Version: 3.6 Comment: TCL Toolkit ups Version: 2.45 Comment: UPS X-Based Debugger urt Version: 3.0 Comment: Utah Raster Toolkit workman Version: ??? Comment: Workman - audio CD player tool with Open Look graphical interface xcdplayer Version: 2.2 Comment: XCdplayer xlock Version: 2.3 Comment: X Screen-Locker xphoon Version: ??? Comment: Sets X the root window to a picture of the moon in its current phase. xpm Version: ??? Comment: X Pixmap Library & Utilities xv Version: 3.0 Comment: Picture Viewer Utility xview Version: 3.2 Comment: XView Library xxgdb Version: 1.06 Comment: GNU gdb debugger with X interface - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - You can find the following packages (binaries) at: freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/packages or freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/packages-current comm: ----- flexfax_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: flexfax - fax software for FreeBSD kermit_bin.tgz Version: 5A edit 189 Comment: KERMIT file transfer protocol utility rzsz_bin.tgz Version: 3.32.1 Comment: Zmodem file transfer utilities seyon_bin.tgz Version: 2.14b Comment: Seyon, hacked to work with FreeBSD 1.0.2 at high speeds (requires XFree) term_bin.tgz Version: 1.0.7 Comment: Term mutliple login system editor: ------- aXe_bin.tgz Version: 6.0 Comment: aXe editor, built with the Tcl extensions emacs_bin.tgz Version: 19.22 Comment: GNU Emacs text editor ile_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: ile - the Interactive Line Editor (for other programs) mule_bin.tgz Version: 1.1.04 Comment: Mule, text editor vile_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: vile - VI-Like emacs [for vi users who want to switch but can't :-)] games: ------ golddig_bin.tgz Version: 2 Comment: golddig - a X11 arcade game seahaven_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: Seahaven - a X11 solitaire card game xboing_bin.tgz Version: 1.8a Comment: xboing - an X11 breakout game with audio xjewel_bin.tgz Version: 1.6 Comment: xjewel - a X window game similar to tetris xpilot_bin.tgz Version: 1.3 Comment: xpilot - Multi-player gravity war game xtrek_bin.tgz Version: 6.1 Comment: xtrek - X based space warfare extravaganza lang: ----- bwbasic_bin.tgz Version: 2.10 Comment: Bywater BASIC Interpreter/Shell logo_bin.tgz Version: 3.0.1 Comment: UCB LOGO language perl_bin.tgz Version: 4.0 Comment: Perl patchlevel 36 scripting language sml93_bin.tgz Version: 0.93 Comment: Standard ML of New Jersey - a compiler for the ML language tcl-dp_bin.tgz Version: 3.0 Comment: TCL-DP, the TCP/IP extension package for TCL, and dpwish for Tk tcl_bin.tgz Version: 7.3 Comment: TCL (Tool Command Language) xlispstat_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: xlispstat - a lisp based statistical plotting package (2D/3D) math: ----- blas_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: BLAS level 1, 2, and 3 (Basic Linear Algebra) eispack_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: Eispack, Eigenvalue system package linpack_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: Linpack, Linear Algebra package. mail: ----- mh_bin.tgz Version: 6.8 Comment: MH mail software mush_bin.tgz Version: 7.2.5 Comment: MUSH mail user shell net: ---- dgd_bin.tgz Version: 1.0.a6 Comment: DGD (MUD server), with LPmud 2.4.5++ example simulation lib gopher_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: gopher - a utility for browsing INTERNET facilities httpd_bin.tgz Version: 1.2 Comment: NCSA httpd daemon plus auxiliar files. ncsa_tools_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: NCSA hdf lib and xds sup_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: CMU's Software Update Protocol package xftp_bin.tgz Version: 1.1 Comment: Athena X interface to ftp - xftp (required libXaw3d.so.2.0) xrn_bin.tgz Version: 6.17 Comment: Athena X interface to rn - xrn (required libXaw3d.so.2.0) ytalk_bin.tgz Version: 3.2 Comment: ytalk - version 3.0pl2 of ytalk - requires XFree86 zircon_bin.tgz Version: 1.15 Comment: Zircon, the Tk/DP based IRC client shells: ------- bash_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: GNU Borne Again Shell ksh_bin.tgz Version: 4.5 Comment: KSH korn shell tcsh_bin.tgz Version: 6.04 Comment: TCSH shell zsh_bin.tgz version: 2.3.1 Comment: ZSH shell sound: ------ netaudio_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: Network Audio System - play, record, and manipulate audio data over a network workman_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: Workman - audio CD player tool with Open Look graphical interface xcdplayer_bin.tgz Version: 2.2 Comment: XCdplayer util: ----- archivers_bin.tgz Version: 1.0 Comment: ARCHIVERS a collection of various archiving utilities V1.0 (zip, lharc, zoo etc.) gdb_bin.tgz Version: 4.11 Comment: GNU debugger, it is still in experimental status. gmake_bin.tgz Version: 3.69 Comment: GNU make iozone_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: iozone - disk I/O performance benchmark ispell_bin.tgz Version 3.1 Comment: Interactive spelling checker jpeg_bin.tgz Version: 4.0a Comment: JPEG image compression and decompression utilities less_bin.tgz Version: 170 Comment: less - a pager similar to more and pg md5_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: md5 - cryptographic checksums mprof_bin.tgz Version: 3.0 Comment: Memory Profiler and Leak Detector mtools_bin.tgz version: 2.0 Comment: Mtools - unix programs for manipulation of MSDOS filesystems pbmplus_bin.tgz version: ??? Comment: Portable bitmap image conversion package sc_bin.tgz version: 6.21 Comment: sc Spread Sheet calculator screen_bin.tgz Version: 3.3 Comment: Screen -- a pseudo session multiplexer syscons_xtra_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: syscons_xtra -- extra utils for syscons console driver tcx_bin.tgz Version: 1.1 Comment: Tcx transparents decompression and execution utility tex_bin.tgz Version: 3.14t3 Comment: This is TeX texinfo_bin.tgz Version: 3 Comment: texinfo - a document formatter package texk_bin.tgz Version: 3.1415 (C Version 6.1) Comment: TeX document formatting system tiff_lib.tgz Version 3.21 Comment: This is the TIFF image library top_bin.tgz Version: 3.2 Comment: Top 3.2 - A system monitoring utility unshar_bin.tgz Version: 2.3pl3 Comment: A utility used to unpack shar archives from usenet postings x11: ---- Xaw3d_bin.tgz Version: Release 0.6B Comment: Three-D Athena Widgets (Xaw3d) blt_bin.tgz Version: 1.5 Comment: Tk toolkit extension package (big - see docs) fvwm_bin.tgz Version: 1.21zf Comment: fvwm window manager - requires XPM ghostscript_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: GNU Postscript interpreter with fonts gnuplot_bin.tgz Version: 3.5 Comment: command-line driven interactive function plotting utility iv_bin.tgz Version: 3.1 Comment: InterViews from Stanford University and Silicon Graphics mpeg_play_bin.tgz Version: 2.0 (Jan 27, 1993) Comment: MPEG Video Software Decoder point_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: point - the Tk based screen editor rasmol_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: Rasmol, the fast molecular renderer for X11/Unix stations rxvt_bin.tgz Version: 1.9 Comment: rxvt, based on xvt version 1.0 tk_bin.tgz Version: 3.6 Comment: Tk X11 toolkit for TCL xlock_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: XLock screen saver and server locker xpaint_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: xpaint - interactive image editor xphoon_bin.tgz Version: ??? Comment: Sets X the root window to a picture of the moon in its current phase. xpm_bin.tgz Version: 3.2g Comment: xpm, the X Pixmap library xview32_bin.tgz Version: 3.2 Comment: Xview executables libs, includes, and man pages xxgdb_bin.tgz Version: 1.06 Comment: XXGDB, an X window interface to the GDB debugger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- II. Easy compiling software & packages for FreeBSD & NetBSD communications: --------------- ftp.fgb.mw.tu-muenchen.de:/pub/linux/sunsite/apps/comm/minicom-1.5b.tgz Comment: Communication package similar to DOS telix (seems to be a mirror or sunsite.unc.edu) Submitted by: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter) Tested on: FreeBSD 1.0.2 editors: -------- ftp.lucid.com:/pub/lemacs/lemacs-19.9-netbsd.tar.gz Comment: Lucid Emacs 19.9 (NetBSD 0.9/XFree86) Submitted by: james r grinter (james@blodwen.demon.co.uk) Tested on: NetBSD 0.9 environments: ------------- ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/AUIS/auis-6.3 Comment: Andrew User Interface System, includes MIME mailer, word processor, spread-sheet etc. Submitted by: <cagney@highland.oz.au> (Andrew Cagney) & <njw@cs.city.ac.uk> (Nick Williams) Tested on: NetBSD-0.9 (cagney) NetBSD-current-16-apr (cagney) FreeBSD-1.1 (njw) orgchem.weizmann.ac.il:pub/packages-1.1/Andrew-6.3.split Comment: Andrew-6.3 binaries for FreeBSD-1.1.5 Submitted by: <serg@klara.weizmann.ac.il> (Serge Maleyev) Tested on: FreeBSD-1.1.5-RELEASE mail: ----- eddie.mit.edu:/pub/FreeBSD/mm-0.90FBSD.tar Comment: A very powerful mail user agent, w/natural language interface Submitted by: shawn@fenchurch.MIT.EDU (Shawn F. Mckay) Tested on: FreeBSD ?.? ftp.resort.com:/pub/popper.tar.Z: Comment: POP mail server Submitted by: banshee@resort.com (John Vinopal) Tested on: ??? braae.ru.ac.za:/pub/FreeBSD/apps/smail-3.1.28.FBSD.tar.gz Comment: Replacement for SENDMAIL - _much_ easier to use and configure Submitted by: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) or murray@its.uct.ac.za (Mark Murray) Tested on: FreeBSD-1.1, FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 news: ----- Braae.ru.ac.za:/pub/FreeBSD/apps/nn_src.tgz Comment: Newsreader nn Submitted by: g89r4222@alpha.ru.ac.za (Geoff Rehmet) Tested on: FreeBSD ?.? programming: ------------ ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de(130.149.17.7):/pub/bsd/0.1-ports/languages/modula-2/mocka Comment: Modula-2 compiler Submitted by: hopp@ira.uka.de (Holger) & wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schneider) Tested on: FreeBSD 1.1 (current), static linked utils: ------ oz.plymouth.edu(158.136.75.100):pub/psc/PSCmenu2.4a.tar.Z Comment: Menu software Submitted by: ted@oz.plymouth.edu (The Wizard of Oz) Tested on: ??? x11: ---- sunsite.unc.edu(152.2.22.81):/pub/Linux/X11/window-managers/fvwm-1.21c-source.tar.gz Comment: Virtual window manager Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah) Tested on: FreeBSD ?.? ftp.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/Xaw3d Comment: ??? Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah) Tested on: ??? ftp.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/tetris.3.1.1.tar.Z Comment: Tetris game for X11 Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah) Tested on: FreeBSD ?.? gatekeeper.dec.com(16.1.0.2):/.b/published/oreilly/xresource/issue8/xfig.2.1.8.tar.Z Comment: Utility to generate pictures for LaTeX Submitted by: Andras Olah <olah@cs.utwente.nl> Tested on: FreeBSD ?.? public.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/xkeycaps-2.11.tar.Z Comment: Graphical interface to xmodmap Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah) Tested on: FreeBSD ?.? ftp.x.org(198.112.44.100):/R5contrib/xpm-3.3.tar.gz Comment: XPixmap library & utils Submitted by: olah@cs.utwente.nl (Andras Olah) Tested on: FreeBSD ?.? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- III. Commercial software for FreeBSD & NetBSD Product: ctree, dtree, rtree Company: FairCom Corp. Comment: ISAM routines(ctree), Screen handling(dtree), Report generator (rtree) Tel/Fax: (314) 445-6833 / (314) 445-9698 / (800) 234-8180 Email: FairCom@cerf.net Submitted by: joeg@wwa.com (Josef Grosch) Product: Motif 1.2.3 Runtime & Development Company: GUI, Inc. Distributers: For U.S. and Canada: Product: Motif Runtime & Development Company: ACC Corporation Comment: Full runtime/development Tel/Fax: (800) 546-7274 / (203) 454-2582 Email: info@acc-corp.com For countries outside U.S. and Canada: Product: Motif Runtime & Development Company: Lasermoon Ltd. Comment: Full runtime/development Tel/Fax: +44.329.826.444 / +44.329.825.936 Email: info@lasermoon.co.uk Submitted by: hanh@seq.com (Hanh Vu) Product: Accelerated-X Company: X Inside Comment: High performance X Server with easy configuration Tel: (800) XINSIDE / (303) 384-9999 / (303) 384-9778 ftp: ftp.xinside.com:/accelx/1.1/prodinfo.txt WWW: http://www.xinside.com/ Email: info@xinside.com Submitted by: jdc@xinside.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- __/\__ | Josef Grosch | "It's been a quiet week in Lake \ / | (708) 291-9076 | Wobegon, my home town..." /_ _\ | | \/ | joeg@wwa.com | -Prairie Home Companion