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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!purdue!news.bu.edu!olivea!news.hal.COM!halsoft.com!netcomsv!netcomsv!calcite!vjs From: vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (Vernon Schryver) Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD free? Message-ID: <D0GvM0.5EA@calcite.rhyolite.com> Organization: Rhyolite Software Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 00:49:12 GMT References: <KSTAILEY.94Dec6121810@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov> <3c2h41$oq2@dagny.galt.com> <KSTAILEY.94Dec7103038@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov> Lines: 41 In article <KSTAILEY.94Dec7103038@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov> kstailey@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Stailey) writes: >>FreeBSD and NetBSD both have no GPLed code in the kernel. NetBSD makes a >>point of having as little as possible elsewhere, but FreeBSD makes the >>decision on a program by program basis (or this is what was going a >>while ago, and as far as I know neither group has changed their stance). > >Hey there are a whole lot of worse things than the GPL. Take software >patents for instance. Did you know that /usr/ucb/compress is >technically illegal to sell because Unisys has a patent on the algorithm? >Nobody pays much attention to this though. That is false in several ways - the GPL people pay a lot of "attention" to compress vs the LZW patents, I think mostly because compress.c is not covered by the GPL. The GPL people think people working on BSD software without adding GPL's are Traitors To Humanity. - the situation with the two LZW patents (one by Unisys that everyone talks about and another 2 weeks prior by IBM) with respect to compress.c is murky. + At one time, Unisys informally told software vendors to go ahead and not worry about the patent + USL worried anyway, but bought a license for UNIX(tm). I think it was after SVR3.2 which had `pack` but no `compress`, and before SVR4, which I think has `compress`. I'm not certain that is why SVR4 has compress. Maybe instead of paying Unisys, USL decided to stop worrying. - people building hardware using LZW, including people building modems with v.42bis, pay plenty of attention to the Unisys patent, as well as about $20K to Unisys. (I think the comp.compression FAQ mentions the cost of an LZW license.) - there are things worse than the GPL, including software patents, but there are also things much better than the GPL, such as the BSD copyrights. Vernon Schryver vjs@rhyolite.com