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From: darrend@bikini.USG.Sandy.Novell.COM (Darren R. Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: Unix for PC
Date: 9 Dec 1994 16:25:48 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc.
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Distribution: world
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References: <3bvmo1$hgr@cascade.pnw.net> <D0Ex7E.2nv@ssbunews.ih.att.com> <3c4rhh$54a@bantu.provo.novell.com> <3c5cos$bhb@crl7.crl.com> <D0I0Fn.Avr@telly.on.ca>
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In article <D0I0Fn.Avr@telly.on.ca>, evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
|> In article <3c5cos$bhb@crl7.crl.com>,
|> 	J. Heather Patrick <jpatrick@crl.com> wrote:
|> 
|> >In article <3c4rhh$54a@bantu.provo.novell.com>,
|> >	Darren R. Davis <darrend@bikini.USG.Sandy.Novell.COM> wrote:
|> 
|> >>UnixWare is just as capable OS as is Solaris.
|> 
|> >Not.
|> 
|> Hey, folks, this is really well intentioned and all, but has the makings
|> of a classic computer-religion noisefest. I thought everyone'd learned
|> their lessons after exposure to the Linux crew.
|> 
|> >1) cachefs
|> >2) better NFS in general
|> >3) thread support
|> >4) a much more standard and full set of code libraries
|> >5) a better X server
|> >6) a better X environment
|> >7) MAE availability  [on sparc]
|> >8) working man pages
|> >9) a proper sysvr4 kernal that doesn't have to be compiled
|> >10) better compilers/tools available (centerline, purify, ...) [on sparc]
|> 
|> While hoping not to get (too deeply :-) dragged in, I'll note that
|> Heather's points 7 and 10 don't apply to this context, which is purely
|> one of Intel Solaris vs. Intel UnixWare.
|> 
|> Regardless of which side eventually wins this particular pissing match,
|> please try to use more useful adjectives than "better" or "more standard"
|> or (worst of all) "proper" when flying your particular flag in the future.
|> 
|> Some of us are actually interested in *meaningful* comparisons;
|> this wasn't one of them.
|> 
|> -- 
|>  Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
|>        Novell Unix Master Reseller / evan@telly.on.ca / (905) 452-0504
|>                Are vegetarians allowed to eat animal crackers?

This WAS my whole point.  I am not interested in getting into a pissing
match about my OS versus your OS, we know where that leads.  What I was
trying to point out, is if I was givin the task of choosing OSes I would
not believe ANY subjective statement like my X is better than your X, and
your feature really sucks.  I would establish myself an acceptance criteria
idependant of any OS I was using and then measure these OSes OBJECTIVELY
to this standard.  Then *ALL* I would know is I have the best OS that meets
my criteria.  BUT I CAUTION, check all the numbers and features.  AND
THROUGH ALL THE OPINION IN THE TRASH WERE IT BELONGS!

Darren R. Davis
UnixWare Developer Support Engineer
Novell Developer Support