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From: jpatrick@crl.com (J. Heather Patrick)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: Unix for PC
Date: 9 Dec 1994 15:19:09 -0800
Organization: Chaos, Inc
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In article <D0K893.L8K@nntpa.cb.att.com>,  <corey@hotrod.alph.att.com> wrote:
>>More full set of code libraries:
>>   As I pointed out in email to someone, solaris has the goodies like
>>    strcasecmp().  UW1.1 does not.
>
>	Gee! maybe you should have looked in /usr/ucbinclude
>	on a UW system before you made this statement.

And maybe I expect there to be a MAN PAGE for a function before i go
looking for it. Gee, on MOST systems, if there isn't a man-page for a
library function, it means it doesn't EXIST.
And where the hell's the library I have to link in for it?
And I dont think I want to link in an extra library anyways.

>>Better X server:
>>   R5 based. REAL implementation of standard R5, including 16-bit fonts.
>>       (there is an optional package called metrolink that claims
>>         to provide R5 for unixware. no MITSHM. no 16-bit-fonts)
>>   MITSHM extension.
>>   DPS (Adobe-DPS-Extension, AND DPSExtension)
>>   Multi-Buffering
>>   MIT_SUNDRY_NONSTANDARD
>>   X3D-PEX
>>   XimputExtension
>>   XTEST
>
>	Except for the PEX extension this looks just like the output
>	I get from xdpyinfo on a UW machine.

You've got a hacked UW machine. I compared it with a standard unixware 1.1
machine and listed what was not available on the UW machine.
Heres the actual output from xdpyinfo on our UW machine.


name of display:    :0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    USL's XWIN WGS with VGA16 display. [(using vt01)]
vendor release number:    4
  ....
number of extensions:    2
    SHAPE
    XIdle
default screen number:    0
 ...	  

Gee, no MITSHM or other stuff there.


>
>	Oh well! UW ships a "REAL" mwm and Motif development kit
>	with their system. Sun is still shipping OLIT and charging
>	$295.00 for a Motif developers kit (single user license).

Wrong. The motif libraries and includes come free with solaris 2.4.
THe only thing missing is mwm,  which doesn't have much to do with a
motif development kit.


>>Working man pages:
>>   Source for man pages is EXTRA in uw1.1?? Come ON. And the
>>   apropos/whatis stuff is useless without it.
>
>	HMMMM!!! UW comes with the finger-tip library that has	
>	search capabilities. How much does Sun get for AnswerBook
>	these days???

maybe I don't want to run the fingertip library all the time? clike I
don't want to run the answerbook all the time either.
"apropos <commandtopic>" is far more useful and quick usually.

But since you bring it up, suns answerbook is more flexible than the
fingertip library. The seach feature works on any number of answerbooks
that you select, not just the current one. And there are various logic
operations you can do on the search.

And I just love it how "man flib" turns up nothing.