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Xref: sserve comp.unix.aix:48596 comp.unix.bsd:15519 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7683 comp.unix.solaris:28036 comp.unix.unixware:14983 Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!news.moneng.mei.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!sgiblab!pacbell.com!att-out!nntpa!not-for-mail From: corey@hotrod.alph.att.com () Subject: Re: Unix for PC Message-ID: <D0K893.L8K@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: hotrod.alph.att.com Organization: AT&T References: <3bvmo1$hgr@cascade.pnw.net> <3c5cos$bhb@crl7.crl.com> <D0I0Jq.991@ssbunews.ih.att.com> <3c8i58$5uj@crl9.crl.com> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:15:01 GMT Lines: 103 In article <3c8i58$5uj@crl9.crl.com>, J. Heather Patrick <jpatrick@crl.com> wrote: >In article <D0I0Jq.991@ssbunews.ih.att.com>, >55433-jack fijolek(hhall) <jack1@iexist.flw.att.com> wrote: >> >>In article <3c5cos$bhb@crl7.crl.com>, jpatrick@crl.com (J. Heather Patrick) writes: >>|> >>|> Do you think 10 reasons comprises "more capable", or should I go on? >>|> >>|> >>Go on because a lot of this disappears in UW2.0 (ie. X env). > >Glad to hear it. Although I'll believe it when I see it :-) > >>UW did a nice layered virtual machine for X, and X ain't nice. > >What do you mean in this case by "virtual machine for X"? > >I shall now, by popular demand, elucidate upon the points I made, which >should already be clear to people who have used both unixware and solaris. > >THe following comparison pertains to: > Solaris 2.4 > Unixware 1.1 (cause we ain't got no 2.0) > >Better NFS: > the nfs daemon for solaris is multithreaded > (+ more reasons that I dont remember, but a sun engineer could > probably point out) I'm sure they could! > >More full set of code libraries: > As I pointed out in email to someone, solaris has the goodies like > strcasecmp(). UW1.1 does not. Gee! maybe you should have looked in /usr/ucbinclude on a UW system before you made this statement. > >Better X server: > R5 based. REAL implementation of standard R5, including 16-bit fonts. > (there is an optional package called metrolink that claims > to provide R5 for unixware. no MITSHM. no 16-bit-fonts) > MITSHM extension. > DPS (Adobe-DPS-Extension, AND DPSExtension) > Multi-Buffering > MIT_SUNDRY_NONSTANDARD > X3D-PEX > XimputExtension > XTEST Except for the PEX extension this looks just like the output I get from xdpyinfo on a UW machine. > >Better X server environment: > A real olwm. the pseudo-olwm with unixware 1.1 is broken. i dont > remember how right now, sorry. Oh well! UW ships a "REAL" mwm and Motif development kit with their system. Sun is still shipping OLIT and charging $295.00 for a Motif developers kit (single user license). > > A real xterm. The "xterm" with unixware is a very sad joke. Its hardly as sad as you say, and BTW, if you REALLY must have the REAL xterm you can just download it and compile it yourself. OH! and BTW, you can compile it on the c compiler that comes in the $69.00 SDK. Whats Sun getting for their SDK today? Lets see, the SunExpress catalog says the SPARCworks Professional single user license is $995.00. OH! but don't forget your corporate discount! > > More stuff I dont remember right now, but other users of both systems > should be able to fill in. Well lets hope that they finally got their act together. After slow-aris 2.2 and extemely slow-aris 2.3 they had better get it right. Lets not even mention the numerous patches that we had to install on our 2.3 systems just to make them usable. > >Working man pages: > Source for man pages is EXTRA in uw1.1?? Come ON. And the > apropos/whatis stuff is useless without it. HMMMM!!! UW comes with the finger-tip library that has search capabilities. How much does Sun get for AnswerBook these days??? > > Plus, the solaris stuff uses the cache generated by catman -w > to speed up "man xx" serach times > >I apologise for my mistake on the compiler issue. > -- /* Corey Brown (WB0RXQ): 20m, 15m, 2m(146.82) 70cm(443.65) */ /* AT&T NSD | corey@hustler.att.com */ /* Alpharetta, Ga 30202 | attmail!wcbrown */ /* (404)750-8071 | New rays from an ancient sun (JS) */