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From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius)
Subject: Re: Unix for PC
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 14:21:33 GMT
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Casper H.S. Dik (casper@fwi.uva.nl) wrote:
: corey@hotrod.alph.att.com () writes:

: >	Gee! maybe you should have looked in /usr/ucbinclude
: >	on a UW system before you made this statement.

: Libraries in /usr/ucb* don't count.  They're not part of the "native"
: OS.

Now, this is silly.  When SVR4 was designed, jointly by Sun and AT&T, the
very idea was that both System V and BSD heritage components would be in
there.  Where there were conflicts (or where is was otherwise felt
appropriate), they would be in "compatibility libraries."  And that is
just what happened.  As Dan Pop pointed out, strcasecmp() is a
Berkeleyism, (it's not in ANSI-C or K&R), so /usr/ucb* is the right place
for it.  Anyone who wants to port code with such things in it, better
study the docs on compiling BSD applications (or, better, the FAQ for
comp.unix.unixware).

By the same token, I could pick any arbitrary utility out of /usr/5bin
and complain about its unavailability, and then dismiss the claim "but
it's there" with "yes, but I want it in /usr/bin".  Come on!

: >	Oh well! UW ships a "REAL" mwm and Motif development kit
: >	with their system. Sun is still shipping OLIT and charging
: >	$295.00 for a Motif developers kit (single user license).

: Motif includes & libraries are part of Solaris.  mwm is not.
: (But then I don't know anyone using it voluntarily, where's
: mvwm?  That's what people need before they'll switch)

: Motif sucks!

So you better learn to suck.  :=)

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