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Xref: sserve comp.unix.aix:48759 comp.unix.bsd:15556 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7724 comp.unix.solaris:28234 comp.unix.unixware:15129 Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!nntp.et.byu.edu!news.provo.novell.com!uel!msohnius From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) Subject: Re: Unix for PC Sender: news@novell.co.uk Message-ID: <D0pBvy.MtH@novell.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 14:21:33 GMT References: <3bvmo1$hgr@cascade.pnw.net> <3c5cos$bhb@crl7.crl.com> <3caffj$poc@mail.fwi.uva.nl> Organization: Novell Europe X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Followup-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware Lines: 42 Casper H.S. Dik (casper@fwi.uva.nl) wrote: : corey@hotrod.alph.att.com () writes: : > Gee! maybe you should have looked in /usr/ucbinclude : > on a UW system before you made this statement. : Libraries in /usr/ucb* don't count. They're not part of the "native" : OS. Now, this is silly. When SVR4 was designed, jointly by Sun and AT&T, the very idea was that both System V and BSD heritage components would be in there. Where there were conflicts (or where is was otherwise felt appropriate), they would be in "compatibility libraries." And that is just what happened. As Dan Pop pointed out, strcasecmp() is a Berkeleyism, (it's not in ANSI-C or K&R), so /usr/ucb* is the right place for it. Anyone who wants to port code with such things in it, better study the docs on compiling BSD applications (or, better, the FAQ for comp.unix.unixware). By the same token, I could pick any arbitrary utility out of /usr/5bin and complain about its unavailability, and then dismiss the claim "but it's there" with "yes, but I want it in /usr/bin". Come on! : > Oh well! UW ships a "REAL" mwm and Motif development kit : > with their system. Sun is still shipping OLIT and charging : > $295.00 for a Motif developers kit (single user license). : Motif includes & libraries are part of Solaris. mwm is not. : (But then I don't know anyone using it voluntarily, where's : mvwm? That's what people need before they'll switch) : Motif sucks! So you better learn to suck. :=) -- +----------------------------------+ Martin Sohnius | "If you can't be funny, | Novell Labs Europe | at least be interesting." | Bracknell, England | - Harold W. Ross | +44-1344-724031 +----------------------------------+ (I speak for myself, not for Novell or anyone else.)