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From: mrg@mame.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: Re: Unix for PC
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 13:43:43 GMT
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darrend@bikini.USG.Sandy.Novell.COM (Darren R. Davis) writes:

   Let's not get into a great debate, but just some more info.
   
   |> More full set of code libraries:
   |>    As I pointed out in email to someone, solaris has the goodies like
   |>     strcasecmp().  UW1.1 does not.

   UnixWare has strcasecmp() in /usr/ucblib/libucb.a, please keep your
   facts straight.

oh, _great_.  just hid what should be in libc in a totally broken
library.  you expect anyone to trust libucb ?  you expect everyone
to know how to link with libucb properly ?
   
   We provide an R5 server on xserver@summit.novell.com.  There are several
   third party X servers such as Metrolink and X inside, though I believe
   that UnixWare's is excellent.  I do know that our bench mark numbers are
   some of the best.  Kumar periodically posts X benchmarks for various
   cards here.  I would use this info for a source of comparison.  In terms
   of extensions that is many of the third parties claims to fame.

but your `standard' x server is not R5, right?
   
   |>   A real xterm. The "xterm" with unixware is a very sad joke.

   AGREED!  I happen to use the MIT xterm from ftp.novell.com.

.. another non standard requirement for working x ?
   
   
   |> Working man pages:
   |>    Source for man pages is EXTRA in uw1.1?? Come ON. And the
   |>    apropos/whatis stuff is useless without it.

   There is a fix for the whatis stuff.  Though, I tend to use the new
   dynatext browser in UnixWare 2.0 for manuals.  I happen to mostly use

the solaris manual pages are just as broken as anything else i've
ever seen.  you need to use 'man -s sect manual' to get at a specific
section.  `catman' (makewhatis, etc) is so broken it leaves whatis
fiels that break manual lookups so much that man becomes unusbale
until you remove it.

   the X environment.  I know some people are still character based.  Their
   opinions need to be kept in mind.

yay!  someone who realises this.  _don't_ for get it, please.
   
   We have catman pages as well, that just prevents the nroff processing.

it's nice having manual source so i can go

% groff -Tps -man foo.1 | lp

and get a nice printed version.


mind you, i hate solaris with a passion [*]

.mrg.

[*] like a lot of computer things.