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From: sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: Unix for PC
Date: 11 Dec 1994 21:18:48 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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References: <199411210319.TAA18133@nic.cerf.net> <MICHAELV.94Dec10124723@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> <3cd8fo$ns5@fido.asd.sgi.com> <3cdef1$q87@pdq.coe.montana.edu>
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In article <3cdef1$q87@pdq.coe.montana.edu>,
Nate Williams <nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu> wrote:
>In article <3cd8fo$ns5@fido.asd.sgi.com>,
>Larry McVoy <lm@slovax.engr.sgi.com> wrote:
>>Michael L. VanLoon (michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com) wrote:
>>: In article <3c81c7$h1o@fido.asd.sgi.com> lm@fubar (Larry McVoy) writes:
>>
>>:    Nate Williams (nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu) wrote:
>>:    : C'mon Dan.  Commercial OS software testing is completely different than
>>:    : free software testing in general.  The reason Linux and FreeBSD have
>>
>>:    I hate to burst your bubble, but I worked at Sun in the systems group for
>>:    a few years (and then in the server group).  They had *no* regression 
>>:    test other than the binaries that shipped with the OS.  Since 5.x,
>>:    they use the POSIX test suites but those (were) are pathetic and 
>>:    certainly don't cover everything.
>>
>>: I've worked with a certain very large software company and it is not
>>: done like this at all.  They do extensive testing constantly during
>>: the development cycle, before anyone outside the company even sees it.
>>
>>I think you are misunderstanding the point.  Certainly Sun, and every
>>other big or small company, will run the new release internally before
>>shipping it and will "test" that the binaries "work".
>
>>:    I hate to burst your bubble, but I worked at Sun in the systems group for
>>:    a few years (and then in the server group).  They had *no* regression 
>>:    test other than the binaries that shipped with the OS.  Since 5.x,
>
>IMHO, this is totally contradictory to your statement I've pulled down
>for reference sake.  The latter statement implies there is NO testing
>done except to make sure the binaries 'run'.

I see no contradiction. What part of the difference between

"NO test"
and
"*no* regression test"

do you NOT understand?

Sinan

>
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