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Xref: sserve comp.unix.aix:48908 comp.unix.bsd:15584 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7752 comp.unix.solaris:28391 comp.unix.unixware:15270 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news.u.washington.edu!sinan From: sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware Subject: Re: Unix for PC Date: 11 Dec 1994 21:18:48 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 51 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3cfqbo$613@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <199411210319.TAA18133@nic.cerf.net> <MICHAELV.94Dec10124723@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> <3cd8fo$ns5@fido.asd.sgi.com> <3cdef1$q87@pdq.coe.montana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu In article <3cdef1$q87@pdq.coe.montana.edu>, Nate Williams <nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu> wrote: >In article <3cd8fo$ns5@fido.asd.sgi.com>, >Larry McVoy <lm@slovax.engr.sgi.com> wrote: >>Michael L. VanLoon (michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com) wrote: >>: In article <3c81c7$h1o@fido.asd.sgi.com> lm@fubar (Larry McVoy) writes: >> >>: Nate Williams (nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu) wrote: >>: : C'mon Dan. Commercial OS software testing is completely different than >>: : free software testing in general. The reason Linux and FreeBSD have >> >>: I hate to burst your bubble, but I worked at Sun in the systems group for >>: a few years (and then in the server group). They had *no* regression >>: test other than the binaries that shipped with the OS. Since 5.x, >>: they use the POSIX test suites but those (were) are pathetic and >>: certainly don't cover everything. >> >>: I've worked with a certain very large software company and it is not >>: done like this at all. They do extensive testing constantly during >>: the development cycle, before anyone outside the company even sees it. >> >>I think you are misunderstanding the point. Certainly Sun, and every >>other big or small company, will run the new release internally before >>shipping it and will "test" that the binaries "work". > >>: I hate to burst your bubble, but I worked at Sun in the systems group for >>: a few years (and then in the server group). They had *no* regression >>: test other than the binaries that shipped with the OS. Since 5.x, > >IMHO, this is totally contradictory to your statement I've pulled down >for reference sake. The latter statement implies there is NO testing >done except to make sure the binaries 'run'. I see no contradiction. What part of the difference between "NO test" and "*no* regression test" do you NOT understand? Sinan > >-- >nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu | FreeBSD dude and all around tech. >nate@cs.montana.edu | weenie. >work #: (406) 994-5980 | Unemployed, looking for permanant work in >home #: (406) 586-0579 | CS/EE field.