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Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:29812 comp.unix.bsd:15623 comp.unix.sys5.r4:8849 comp.unix.misc:15113 comp.os.linux.development:21371 comp.os.linux.misc:31862 comp.os.386bsd.development:2838 comp.os.386bsd.misc:4454 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!news.fdn.fr!fasterix.frmug.fr.net!frmug.fr.net!eddy.frmug.fr.net!eddy.frmug.fr.net!not-for-mail From: zarkdav@eddy.frmug.fr.net (Benjamin Ryzman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Would the design be right this time? (Re: Interested in PowerPC for Linux / FreeBSD / NetBSD? Date: 16 Dec 1994 16:24:07 +0100 Organization: Setec Astronomy Lines: 85 Message-ID: <3csben$pa@eddy.frmug.fr.net> References: <3cilp3$143@news-2.csn.net> <3clp1c$q6p@news.iastate.edu> <3cqe6o$aog@kaleka.seanet.com> <3crhm2$fm8@tuba.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: eddy.frmug.fr.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>>>> Au sujet de "Would the design be right this time? (Re: Interested in PowerPC for Linux / FreeBSD / NetBSD?", S Lee écrivait récemment: SL> I'm definitely interested in a Linux- or *BSD- running PowerPC SL> computer. SL> Waiting for IBM's Power Personal Systems (or whatever it is SL> called) I wonder if they'll get the design right this time. SL> Is there anything people really *don't* want IBM (or clone SL> makers) to put in their new computer? Like: SL> - IRQs and DMA channels that must be configured by the user SL> manually SL> - non-sharable IRQs SL> - lame sound SL> - 2 FD/2 HD limit (I know this is no longer true, but I hope SL> they get this right the first time) SL> - 1 display limit (I think solutions exist, but are SL> really expensive) Heck! who would actually *want* that? I REALLY DON'T WANT THAT. sign here: [X] Benjamin Ryzman SL> Having the following will be nice: SL> - Hot-pluggable peripherals (Keyboard, mice, disk drives?) It's already there (I mean, there are solutions for hot-pluggable disk-drives already, and last I checked my keyboard and mouse could be plugged/unplugged while my PC was running...) SL> - built-in DSP I suggest that you compare the performance/price ratio of a dedicated DSP and a PowerPC doing DSP work... SL> - built-in graphics accelarator (better, one that SL> can handle sprites and several levels of background scrolling) Yes, that would be neat, but I'd prefer a non-built-in one (expandable solution prefered to another VGA "standard") SL> - auto-eject floppy drives Well, who uses floppies nowdays? And, yes, most removable-media SCSI devices have an eject command. SL> - built-in networking Yes, but which one? Scaning IBM's history, it looks like they'd prefer built-in Token Ring to built-in Ethernet... SL> I hate to admit this really sounds like a Mac, but Apple did get SL> their designs right. If people are making clones, I hope SL> they'll not clone the flaws also. It looks more like an Amiga to me (the sprite on a scrollable background, you know)... SL> Really, if somebody can get Linux running on a PowerMac, I might SL> just go ahead and buy one... I guess most would-be PowerPC kernel developpers are thinking like you, though the easiest thing to do would be to port the kernel to an RS/6000 first and then to a PowerMac (that is, IF Apple grants you the right to get the documentation of its proprietary devices...) SL> sl14@cornell.edu Witty .sig under construction. SL> P.S. somebody please suggest a good followup newgroup, I don't SL> know where this belongs to. edited out comp.sys.intel (nothing to do with Intel), comp.os.misc (we're talking about Free Unices, here), comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit (no PC-Clone). I guess comp.unix.bsd and comp.unix.sys5.r4 should be edited out, too. As for the followup, I suggest comp.sys.powerpc (together with comp.arch, maybe), though I don't receive these newsgroups. -- Amicalement, "Benj" Email: zarkdav@eddy.frmug.fr.net + Fish Tag + Gloub. Gloub. Gloub.