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Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:29804 comp.sys.intel:25064 comp.os.misc:3519 comp.unix.bsd:15620 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7789 comp.unix.sys5.r4:8847 comp.unix.misc:15111 comp.os.linux.development:21367 comp.os.linux.misc:31855 comp.os.linux.misc:31856 comp.os.386bsd.development:2836 comp.os.386bsd.misc:4452 Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.indirect.com!wes From: wes@indirect.com (Barnacle Wes) Subject: Re: Interested in PowerPC for Linux / FreeBSD / NetBSD? Message-ID: <D0x1u1.Av9@indirect.com> Sender: usenet@indirect.com (System Operator) Organization: the Briney (notso) Deep Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 18:25:13 GMT References: <3cilp3$143@news-2.csn.net> <3clp1c$q6p@news.iastate.edu> <3cphs0$l6e@ddi2.digital.net> <D0v8yu.LLx@indirect.com> <3cq6o4$pd9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2.1 [BP] PL2.1] Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc Lines: 43 In article <D0v8yu.LLx@indirect.com>, I wrote: > I don't see how Intel could deserve such a "raw deal" more. Every > chip line they've produced in recent history has been dumped onto > the market with known bugs, simply because they were sure the > average DOS user wouldn't notice it. Joseph W. Vigneau (joev@mikasa.WPI.EDU) wrote: : So, if the average DOS user never becomes a victim of the bug, what harm is : done? What about the people who use those Pentiums for applications that need that accuracy? They *also* weren't informed of this problem. What about the financial applications run on Sequent multi-processor systems? What about NASA scientists working on their workstations? What about engineers? Do these people not buy Pentiums? Let us hope... : Look at Intel's current market. How many of them do : the hard core floating point stuff? A very small percentage... I haven't : noticed any flaws in my POVray raytrace output yet :) And what if one of those small percentage of users causes your bank balance to be off? Or drops a satellite into New York City? Well, OK, that wouldn't be much of a loss... The galling part is not that they make mistakes, everyone does, but that they hide it for so long, and then just brush it off when confronted. It would seem they've been taking lessons from GM and FoMoCo. : Besides, this one was just widely publicized. Granted, Intel shouldn't have : kept it quiet for all this time, and they'll be bitten for it.. However, : it's not like PowerPCs, MIPS, Sparcs, and Alphas are bug free, too..... Facts? Figures? Errata sheets? Yah, the 603 had some flaws, but Moto owned up to it, agreed to fix the problem, and went back to silicon ASAP. What Alpha bugs? What Sparc bugs? The R4000 and R4400 have seemed pretty solid so far, too. Oh, excuse me, this posting was just mindless Intel apologism, wasn't it. You don't need to substantiate anything, just state that Intel is no worse than anyone else. Wes Peters