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Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:30326 comp.sys.intel:26280 comp.os.misc:3559 comp.unix.bsd:15692 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7855 comp.unix.sys5.r4:8894 comp.unix.misc:15206 comp.os.linux.development:21630 comp.os.linux.misc:32193 comp.os.linux.misc:32194 comp.os.386bsd.development:2879 comp.os.386bsd.misc:4515 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!otis.apana.org.au!serval.net.wsu.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!oracle.pnl.gov!osi-east2.es.net!lll-winken.llnl.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!psuedvax.ed.psu.edu!KEN From: ken@psuedvax.ed.psu.edu (Kenneth J. Hoover) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Interested in PowerPC for Linux / FreeBSD / NetBSD? Date: 19 Dec 1994 21:36:25 GMT Organization: PSU College of Education Lines: 47 Message-ID: <3d4ucp$sbn@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <3cilp3$143@news-2.csn.net> <D1260u.KIu@odin.diku.dk> <MICHAELV.94Dec19115633@MindBender.HeadCandy.com>,<3d4o1h$7bh@galaxy.ucr.edu> Reply-To: ken@psuedvax.ed.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: psuedvax.ed.psu.edu In article <3d4o1h$7bh@galaxy.ucr.edu>, jjs@dostoevsky.ucr.edu (Joe Sloan) writes: >Windows NT is a joke! It is fine for simple folk who want to play >solitaire, type their letters is MS Word, and run whatever the latest >trendy MS applications happen to be, ...or who want a lightning-fast file-and-print-server OS that's not riddled with security holes for bored CS students to hack in their spare time... >I must say, I have had some amusing experiences exploring the "networking" >capabilities of the NT "advanced server"...It would have been funny, except >for the fact that many clueless types are actually taking NT seriously! Would you care to give details? And whining about it not coming with NFS doesn't count because a surprising number of us out in the world DON'T NEED NFS! Please provide examples of how un*x does it better too so I can have a good laugh. Email is fine. Remember, NT "advanced server" was a 1.0 version operating system despite what MS labeled it, and it was damn good. The 3.5 version is even better. It's also easy enough to set up that a real person can do it... try that with Linux! [I know, I've run Linux] Many UN*X people equate "lack of NFS" with "bad networking" in Windows NT. This is a serious mistake. One of my favorite tricks to show NT unbelievers is to mount MS's anon FTP site as a drive on my NT server box and then proceed to examine their archives from the file mangler just like I search thru my CD-ROM. It takes about 30 seconds. All without NFS over a distance of about 2500 miles. Un*x has no real place in an office environment (yeah, right... someone will tell me that where they work all their secretaries write memos with TeX). NT is designed to be a high-performance SERVER for the (gaack) "enterprise" that's easy to admin while being B2-level secure [yeah, I know it's only been C2-certified so far], not some kind of thrill ride for the computer- masochistic like UN*X is. - Ken "I run NT server and IT WORKS GREAT" Hoover PS: I'm not connected with Microsoft at all other than using their stuff. I don't even like them that much, but they've got a damn good product in NT server and I'm gonna defend it if someone's so clearly off base as this. -- Kenneth J. Hoover | "There is not one shred of evidence ITSS Supervisor of Systems & Ops | that life is serious" - Joseph Campbell Penn State College of Education | ken@psuedvax.ed.psu.edu -=*=- kjh6@psu.edu