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From: ken@psuedvax.ed.psu.edu (Kenneth J. Hoover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Interested in PowerPC for Linux / FreeBSD / NetBSD?
Date: 19 Dec 1994 21:36:25 GMT
Organization: PSU College of Education
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In article <3d4o1h$7bh@galaxy.ucr.edu>, jjs@dostoevsky.ucr.edu (Joe Sloan)
writes:
>Windows NT is a joke! It is fine for simple folk who want to play
>solitaire, type their letters is MS Word, and run whatever the latest
>trendy MS applications happen to be,
...or who want a lightning-fast file-and-print-server OS that's not riddled
with security holes for bored CS students to hack in their spare time...
>I must say, I have had some amusing experiences exploring the "networking"
>capabilities of the NT "advanced server"...It would have been funny, except
>for the fact that many clueless types are actually taking NT seriously!
Would you care to give details? And whining about it not coming with NFS
doesn't count because a surprising number of us out in the world DON'T NEED
NFS! Please provide examples of how un*x does it better too so I can have a
good laugh. Email is fine.
Remember, NT "advanced server" was a 1.0 version operating system despite
what MS labeled it, and it was damn good. The 3.5 version is even better.
It's also easy enough to set up that a real person can do it... try that with
Linux! [I know, I've run Linux]
Many UN*X people equate "lack of NFS" with "bad networking" in Windows NT.
This is a serious mistake. One of my favorite tricks to show NT unbelievers is
to mount MS's anon FTP site as a drive on my NT server box and then proceed to
examine their archives from the file mangler just like I search thru my CD-ROM.
It takes about 30 seconds. All without NFS over a distance of about 2500
miles.
Un*x has no real place in an office environment (yeah, right... someone will
tell me that where they work all their secretaries write memos with TeX). NT
is designed to be a high-performance SERVER for the (gaack) "enterprise"
that's easy to admin while being B2-level secure [yeah, I know it's only been
C2-certified so far], not some kind of thrill ride for the computer-
masochistic like UN*X is.
- Ken "I run NT server and IT WORKS GREAT" Hoover
PS: I'm not connected with Microsoft at all other than using their stuff.
I don't even like them that much, but they've got a damn good product
in NT server and I'm gonna defend it if someone's so clearly off base
as this.
--
Kenneth J. Hoover | "There is not one shred of evidence
ITSS Supervisor of Systems & Ops | that life is serious" - Joseph Campbell
Penn State College of Education | ken@psuedvax.ed.psu.edu -=*=- kjh6@psu.edu