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Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:30656 comp.sys.intel:26971 comp.os.misc:3583 comp.unix.bsd:15731 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7887 comp.unix.sys5.r4:8931 comp.unix.misc:15263 comp.os.linux.development:21744 comp.os.linux.misc:32361 comp.os.linux.misc:32362 comp.os.386bsd.development:2906 comp.os.386bsd.misc:4549 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!otis.apana.org.au!serval.net.wsu.edu!news.clark.edu!sun.lclark.edu!news.reed.edu!usenet.ee.pdx.edu!fastrac.llnl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!fnalv1.fnal.gov!MORPHIS From: morphis@fnalv1.fnal.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Interested in PowerPC for Linux / FreeBSD / NetBSD? Date: 22 Dec 1994 22:36:06 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab Lines: 52 Message-ID: <3dcv0m$cbp@fnnews.fnal.gov> References: <3cilp3$143@news-2.csn.net> <MICHAELV.94Dec19115633@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> <3d4o1h$7bh@galaxy.ucr.edu> <3d4ucp$sbn@hearst.cac.psu.edu>,<3d52i8$am5@galaxy.ucr.edu>,<3d6o4n$k2q@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Reply-To: morphis@fnalv1.fnal.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalv1.fnal.gov ken@psuedvax.ed.psu.edu (Kenneth J. Hoover) writes: > > Boy did I pick the wrong group to post this to. Well, here goes. Be warned >this is kinda long. > > jjs@dostoevsky.ucr.edu (Joe Sloan) writes: >>In article <3d4ucp$sbn@hearst.cac.psu.edu>, I wrote: >>> ...or who want a lightning-fast file-and-print-server OS that's not >>>riddled >>>with security holes for bored CS students to hack in their spare time... > > Okay, some ground rules. I'm talking about NT *SERVER* here when used AS A >SERVER. NT workstation is something I don't have direct experience with. So >let's begin. > >>Oh, this is a scream! lightning fast? There is a saying here, >>"nothing slows down a computer like Windoze NT" >>and there is a reason for that... > > Yeah. Features and stability, which I'll take over bugs and bombs any time >for a production environment. The job of a sys/net admin is to PREVENT that >phone from ringing. If done right, it hardly ever does. > >>1. When you say "lightning fast", are you really talking about fast >> hardware, like a pentium 90 with 32 MB RAM? > > We've found it to be pretty damn fast on 486's. Depends on what you're doing >with it. Read on. > >>2. Benchmarks like the dhrystone test show Windoze NT running at roughly >> 1/3 the speed of UNIX on identical hardware > > So? I don't run povray on my NT server because that's not what it's there >for. Benchmarks aren't everything, you know. Stability, reliability, and ease >of admin make up for lower benchmark rating in my book all the time. Need a >faster server? Buy an Alpha. And if you want a solid operating system, buy VMS to run on it, best bets are TGV's Multinet for TCPIP software and DEC's Pathworks or some 3rd parties software to more easily serve all the DOS machines. > It's important to understand that different OS's work for different people. >I definitely picked the wrong place to disagree with someone's opinion that >Linux is better than NT for everything. Disclaimer: some unices are better than others, VMS and Unix have different strengths, there are some Unixes that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole for production work, others that are quite solid (I am told, my hands-on experience with unix is minimal, though that is going to change, shudder) have a happy Holiday Season, Robert Morphis