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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!sun4nl!fwi.uva.nl!vdlinden From: vdlinden@fwi.uva.nl (Frank van der Linden) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Differences in populatiry of *BSD, Linux Date: 18 Jan 1995 11:56:22 GMT Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam Lines: 62 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3fivl6$d3c@mail.fwi.uva.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: carol.fwi.uva.nl Keywords: NetBSD FreeBSD Linux A lot of the current discussions on merging, comparisons to Linux actually come down to one thing: marketing. People choose the system that they people told them about. Announcing things you've achieved in the OS of your choice makes people thinkg it is 'happening' and the thing to use. For example.. Linux folks could have announced that "gatewaying now works and is stable", and a lot of people reading that would think "Hey, that's great", forgetting that *BSD always had this feature from the start. FreeBSD people can announce that "we're working on a Sparc port", and people reading that would think that's great, and not even realize that NetBSD has had a very good looking Sparc port for a while now. Promotion like this have, to give another example, left a lot of Linux users thinking that Linus Torvalds invented things like a VFS interface and a merged VM/buffer cache, things that already have been known and used in Unix kernels for a while. The three systems are on different spots on the 'PR-scale'. First, there is Linux, whose users have the attitude "Go and tell as many people as possible about it. Defend the system fanatically" (see the thread in which some magazine _seemed_ to say something not so positive about it, and outraged Linux users were all over the place..). "If someone announces that he/she might be working on some feature, put in your .sig that Linux is way cool because this feature is already there". All this seems to work quite well; Linux gained a lot of momentum, and the press noticed that, etc. etc. Speaking of which: want to get your OS to be popular? Say that "MyOS is the the system which is THE system to use to gain access to the fabulous and wonderful Information Superhighway". Works like a charm ;-) NetBSD is on the other end. The main developers are, in the first place, concerned with having a good design, especially one that works across a lot of different platforms. They don't care much for posting over here (can't blame them sometimes), and discussions mostly take place amongst their (small?) but loyal following on the mailing lists. As a NetBSD user myself: I like this. People on the mailing lists are often people with a respectable history of Unix usage and/or programming, and know what they are talking about. However, the danger is that NetBSD might end up the way some other systems in the past did: having the best design, but without many people knowing it and using it. In a perfect world, you'd build the best-structured system, and people would come and use it, but unfortunately it doesn't work that way (if only it did). FreeBSD is somewhere in between. They have stepped up their PR effort, and seem to want to get into competition with Linux more. Announcements of FreeBSD events are frequent, people are quick to respond in newsgroups about things that are or will be in FreeBSD, etc. They have an arrangement with a company (Walnut Creek) for support and putting their system on CD. So far, this seems to have worked for them, since the amount of FreeBSD messages has grown quite a bit in these newsgroups. Anyway, why am I boring you all with this? I have no idea. One thing that I could say as a conclusion, that it's funny that in the world of free OSs, marketing should play such a key role. - Frank -- Frank van der Linden, vdlinden@fwi.uva.nl Use NetBSD, it's free and works on: i386, Mac, Amiga, HP300, Sun3, Sun4c, PC532 Work in progress: DEC MIPS R2k/3k, VAX, Sun4m, Alpha (And even more architectures to come)